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re: How about a Bow Hunting thread?

Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:09 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:09 am to
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I hear alot of hunters claim whisker biscket is peace of mind in the stand.

I have never understood this. I've never used a containment rest, and have had zero issues keeping my arrow where it needs to be.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:12 am to
I mean I can understand it if you're sitting for a long time and moving around a lot to keep warm or something. But like I said, there are two many drop aways that do the same thing.

Not to mention, that peace of mind from a whisker biscuit leads to a lot of newer shooters developing terrible draw form. A true drop away will help you a lot with your form.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:37 am to
99% of the time if people are having the arrow fall off the rest it's because they are shooting too heavy of a draw weight and torquing/jerking their bow when they start their draw.

A shooter should be able to comfortably draw their bow from a seated position. If they can't, then they need to drop their draw weight.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:39 am to
I went to a Brick & Mortar shop to check out some bows this past weekend.
Dem Prices sure be high.

Didn't see any Elite's though.
Been reading alot of bow reviews lately, and they regularly get top reviews.
(Now, how much is the author being compensated to "assist" bow companies? IDK).
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:41 am to
quote:

99% of the time if people are having the arrow fall off the rest it's because they are shooting too heavy of a draw weight and torquing/jerking their bow when they start their draw.



100%. My point was just that a WB is conducive to becoming comfortable with jerking a draw.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:41 am to
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Didn't see any Elite's though.
Been reading alot of bow reviews lately, and they regularly get top reviews.
They are not easy to find. Just be aware that the starter of the company is no longer with them, and has not been in a long time. I have never seen any discussion of the bow knowledge of the dude who bought it.
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:42 am to
Thats my plan this year is to shoot from a sitting position... Ive only bow hunted for the past 4 years and I still have a lot to learn. I'm guessing you guys just put the seated part of you climber in a lower position to get your bow out w/o having to stand...seems that would feel really awkward.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81616 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:48 am to
I lean my bow forward and it rests against the upper part of my climber with bottom cam in my crotch. I stand for every shite I can. I have only had to shoot twice sitting, and both were hunts after a rain where I could not hear steps.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:48 am to
been using a Limb Driver for 6 yrs and never had a problem

LD slow mo video
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:55 am to
I could see it useful if they sneak up on you like that.... I had a big problem of not getting high enough in the tree.... after about 24-25' up... seemed perfect.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:56 am to
quote:

Thats my plan this year is to shoot from a sitting position... Ive only bow hunted for the past 4 years and I still have a lot to learn. I'm guessing you guys just put the seated part of you climber in a lower position to get your bow out w/o having to stand...seems that would feel really awkward.


Mine has adjustable straps on the seat cushion. I raise them as high as they'll go to give myself as much room to shoot over the rail as I can. I lay my bow across the front rail of my climber.

I prefer to stand to shoot, but a lot of our woods are rowed pine and select cuts with little to no cover and if you stand you'll get busted more often than not (even from 25+ feet up)
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:59 am to
quote:

Mine has adjustable straps on the seat cushion. I raise them as high as they'll go to give myself as much room to shoot over the rail as I can. I lay my bow across the front rail of my climber


I gotcha...Im gonna have to try that this year! Beats standing up and possible making a shite load of noise and being seen. Thats the worst part to me is making the transition from sitting to standing.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:45 pm to
I have a Summit Viper. I cut the front rail off and just use it as a hand climber now. I rarely hunt out of a climber though. Mostly just lock ons.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2867 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 12:56 pm to
The whisker biscuits are popular hunting rests because they are simple, rugged and easy to set up.
I personally never shot one but would imagine that there would be some element of noise that would occur when drawing an arrow across a WB but it may be minimal to alert deer close by.
A well tuned drop down is awful tough to beat in so many ways. I went to them years ago and never looked back.
As for speed it's nice, but only if the bow will be quiet. Given the choice I'll take quiet every time. A deer jumping string will move ALOT faster than any increase in speed can account for.

Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2867 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:04 pm to
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Also 9fps slower at 30yds, and 11fps slower at 40.


That is more useful info IMHO. Tells the difference in drag on the arrow via using a WB.

I always wondered if they upset flight more at the launch. When the arrow launches it bends on both axis(s) so I would imagine it would be banging lft/rt/up /dwn against the WB as it loads up at launch.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81616 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:15 pm to
You can always trim your biscuit.
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2867 posts
Posted on 4/8/14 at 1:15 pm to
I know it's not the norm but I'm standing 80-90 % of the time when on stand. Have had too many times through the years when big boys showed up or moved where sitting would have ruined the chance at a shot. But I do usually set up with the bottom of my stand hanging at 23-25 ft up.
Hunt lock ons @ 40% of the time and use my Summit open shots for the majority of my hunts.
FWIW every P&Y on my wall (3 but should be @ 9 but for Mr. Murphy) was taken from a climber on the first hunt of the season in that given area.
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