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re: Gatortail for inshore fishing

Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 2:50 pm to
My cousins and I have always talked about going in on a gator tail to keep at the camp down in coco for bow fishing and general tomfoolery. What would it take dollar wise for us to get into a 16'+- flat with a gator tail? I'm just talking about the boat, tiller motor, trailer, and whatever else to make the boat run (lights, gas tank, etc). A base model. We'd add all the bow fishing stuff after.

Also, how well does a surface drive perform for bow fishing?
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12532 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2406 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:23 pm to
Prolly looking at $13-15k I would think
Posted by Coon
La 56 Southbound
Member since Feb 2005
18492 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:37 pm to
Sorry, should have mentioned used, not any where near new.
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 3:39 pm to
Works good for us for bowfishing, but mine is also a steering wheel setup. Tiller would work too. Just trim it up and idle around.
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:37 pm to
My goal, whenever it comes time to get one, is to be able to run around 32-34 with a 2 man fishing load. Delta performance is seeing these numbers out of there stage 3 package on the 37's.

PapaPogey, If you really want to get her running good, I would suggest giving delta performance a call.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

stage 3 package


Is the cost for repairing the lawnmower motor you modded out, and losing major resale value worth the couple mph gain in speed?

I always tell people the same thing. If you wanna go fast, buy an outboard.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:00 pm to
Fished out of Pro Drive and Gatortails for a while before getting my own glass boat. All you need is a deck and a trolling motor. A powerpole is a nice touch as well.

I will say, they are nice to be able to get wherever you want, but a glass boat is much nicer to fish out of. Much more stable, quiet, etc.. and you can get a nice outboard setup for the same price. I paid 18,500 for a year old Ranger banshee extreme.

But if you have a duck boat already, it can easily be made into a fishing machine.
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:07 pm to
For me, ya I could see it would be, but thats mainly just because I love tinkering with stuff, and nothing I own stays stock.

And yes, going fast is for outboards, but then I ask them how much does it cost for a new lower unit for your outboard, or how nice is it to be able to run through 2 or 3 inches of water to get back to your favorite red fish spot in the back of the marsh.

I get it, you don't have to have a surface drive to red fish, I just like the idea of being able to go where ever you want, whenever you want

Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 6:26 pm to
I would recommend going with a custom boat. Get it built the way you want it and save a ton of money. Shallow water customs out of Ponchatoula build some sick boats. Check out their FB page.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5511 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 9:57 pm to
quote:

I get it, you don't have to have a surface drive to red fish, I just like the idea of being able to go where ever you want, whenever you want


I'm not hating by any means. I just think it's a relevant question to ask before spending the money on the mods. I also agree. I got to some awesome places fishing with my Pro Drive. That said, I never really felt like I couldn't get there with an outboard...it was just more work.
Posted by boatless2
Member since Mar 2015
612 posts
Posted on 6/29/16 at 11:24 pm to
absolutely, iv just always though surface drives are cool, and the though of having one that can haul asse is even better. I think a good tunnel hull boat will get you to 95% of places you need to go
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:01 am to
My brother has one that he fishes the marsh all the time. He also has another 18' flat boat to fish with. He uses the gatortail more so in the winter due to low water levels. Lucky sucker gets to fish 3-4 times a week.
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 6:53 am to
If you're looking at used, look for one that has the CDI charging system. Its beneficial for frogging and bowfishing as it will charge the starting battery at idle (20A). The older non-CDI's will only charge at ~ 2500rpm or above.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 7:23 am to
quote:

iv just always though surface drives are cool, and the though of having one that can haul asse is even better. I think a good tunnel hull boat will get you to 95% of places you need to go


They are nice. And you don't have to be as "careful" when navigating shallow water. But I fished in the same exact spots in my flats boat that I did in any surface drive. And I feel like my outboard was MUCH more reliable. Every single person I know with a surface drive has little issues here and there. Small stuff you can work on yourself, but still. 75% of them have had to replace motors on their boats. For the price they are asking (CC at least when I was shopping), you can get a decked out outboard with a 4 stroke 90 that's going to cause less issues.

Now that's not to say they don't have their place. Just saying that if you are purely fishing, there is no need at all for a surface drive.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24954 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:04 am to
I am planning to get a prodrive 2060 sbx hull and rig it with a 90 outboard. Surprisingly this rig will cost the same as a 37 mud motor package
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
521 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 8:58 am to
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Absolutely. Throttle response is MUCH slower on the CC.



Please explain how the same motor and boat get a different throttle response from a tiller mounter throttle vs a CC?
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 9:09 am to
I was wondering the same thing.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
39479 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 10:40 am to
There's substantial lag when I hammer down on the throttle lever. Not so much on the tiller
Posted by stein_burgundy
Member since Jan 2016
831 posts
Posted on 6/30/16 at 12:37 pm to
Sounds like an issue with the cable setup on the boat. My CC jumps on the throttle same as a tiller.
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