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Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:31 pm to CP3
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Do you also have a problem with gated private roads that are located off of a public highway?
Apples and oranges. You're being silly by even suggesting such a dumb comparison.
The issue with these canals, is and always has been, their construction altered the natural flow of the water. Once publicly own navigable canals are silted in to the point they are a hazard. Agree or disagree, it's indisputable that privately constructed canals in tidal marsh have contributed to over half of our land loss. In some areas it's estimated to be as high as 70%.
Something has to change or else everyone is going to be fricked.
Canals dug on non tidal water, that's a different thing.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:32 pm to CP3
Isn't LA the only state with such a law? The rich folk here in FL who hate people fishing near their docks would love y'all.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:32 pm to BFIV
quote:This
these private property canals linked to a public waterway are about the same thing as your driveway linked to a public road. That driveway is your private property, not open to public use without your permission
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:34 pm to Barf
quote:No it's not.
Apples and oranges. You're being silly by even suggesting such a dumb comparison.
quote:There is a remedy for this if true, so that's outside the scope of this discussion like just about everything else you've brought up.
their construction altered the natural flow of the water. Once publicly own navigable canals are silted in to the point they are a hazard.
quote:That doesn't have one fricking thing to do with any of this.
it's indisputable that privately constructed canals in tidal marsh have contributed to over half of our land loss. In some areas it's estimated to be as high as 70%.
quote:Why?
Canals dug on non tidal water, that's a different thing.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:35 pm to BFIV
The driveway isn't full of fish that taxpayers paid for. In other states if a match floats, and it's connected to a public body of water it is open to the public.. People from other states who come to Louisiana and see this are amazed.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:36 pm to AlxTgr
Aren't you an attorney? You obviously have some sort of interest in gating waterways if you think canals are similar to private roadways/driveways.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:36 pm to Wacker
quote:Irrelevant. What about the squirrels in the back woods?
The driveway isn't full of fish that taxpayers paid for.
quote:Link?
In other states if a match floats, and it's connected to a public body of water it is open to the public.. People from other states who come to Louisiana and see this are amazed.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:36 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
No it's not.
Dude, you can't entertain a conversation about waterways while trying to compare them to fricking concrete. Don't be stupid.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:37 pm to AlxTgr
I just don't see how this concept is so hard to grasp...
Regardless, 2 sea can doors and hydraulic rams keep people out of ours. So bitch all you want
Regardless, 2 sea can doors and hydraulic rams keep people out of ours. So bitch all you want
This post was edited on 2/8/16 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:39 pm to AlxTgr
I don't have a link... But 17 pages on this thread show that there is a lot of support in not being able to gate canals that connect to public water.. I have talked to other fisherman in other states and they haven't seen gated canals in there state
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:41 pm to Wacker
the 17 pages here is nothing compared to the support of a recreational snapper season fix, and look how that's going.Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:41 pm to Wacker
quote:
I have talked to other fisherman in other states and they haven't seen gated canals in there state
Pretty sure LA is the only state with such an awful law. Looks like it was pushed through by large corporations. America, baby.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:43 pm to Barf
quote:You say waterways. That's vague. Some are and some are not. If a private canal, it might as well be concrete. I don't know why you fail to grasp this stuff.
Dude, you can't entertain a conversation about waterways while trying to compare them to fricking concrete. Don't be stupid.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:43 pm to Wacker
quote:
The driveway isn't full of fish that taxpayers paid for.
When did taxpayers pay for the fish? If you are talking about a fishing license, then you are paying for the right to fish in the state on public lands. So taxpayers did not pay for anything on the private lands.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:44 pm to TheOcean
quote:What law?
Pretty sure LA is the only state with such an awful law.
quote:It's always been this way.
Looks like it was pushed through by large corporations.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:44 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
It's always been this way.
No it hasn't.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:46 pm to Barf
quote:Of course it has. Go read the cases.
It's always been this way.
No it hasn't.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:48 pm to Barf
quote:
Dude, you can't entertain a conversation about waterways while trying to compare them to fricking concrete.
How can you not? It's the same concept as gated roads that cut through property.
"Waterways" aren't all public, now if they were deemed so under the confines of the law as navigable waterways, then yes they are public. People are griping about this without even understanding that the canal they are bitching about was never "public" it was always a private canal with open access. Now the land owner is revoking open access.
Posted on 2/8/16 at 1:49 pm to Scrowe
quote:
People are griping about this without even understanding that the canal they are bitching about was never "public" it was always a private canal with open access. Now the land owner is revoking open access.
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