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Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:13 pm to MillerMan
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I do not, oats are about the only thing that will grow down where we are without much help.
I'm in the hill country where it's dry. What, would you suggest to plant. My research finds that lablab is most favorable.
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:28 pm to 650Pirate
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Forgive my ignorance, but what is the "rape" ya'll are referring too?
rape is actually a plant that looks a lot like mustard greens....makes one hell of a pretty food plot, and the deer love them...
if I remember right, rapeseed is actually what canola oil is made from...
Posted on 7/8/14 at 9:37 pm to arktiger28
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What are some inexpensive options for spraying?
best thing I found for this kind of thing is to go and buy some generic roundup (glyphosate)...
I typically get it at tractor supply:
Glyphosate
there are a few other brands, but be sure you get the 31% glyphosate....one gallon of concentrate makes about 50 gallons of spray...
Posted on 7/9/14 at 6:17 am to Spankum
That's the stuff I use. I mix it 3oz/gal and it kills everything I've wanted to.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:17 am to eyepooted
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'm in the hill country where it's dry. What, would you suggest to plant. My research finds that lablab is most favorable.
The Evolved Plot mixers Alfalfa & Chicory are specially selected varieties with deep tap roots (over a foot long) making them very drought resistant.
I've got some cool pictures showing the tap root if you're interested
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:15 am to MillerMan
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Plots really become a second thought to deer when there is corn on the ground from what I've seen so we don't put too much time into planting them.
In my experience the foods rank:
1. Acorns
2. Fertilized food plots
3. Corn
4. Unfertilized food plots
Dropping some fertilizer on your food plots will do wonders for your deer utilization.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:48 pm to DucksnBucks37
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I've got some cool pictures showing the tap root if you're interested
POST EM!
Posted on 7/9/14 at 12:49 pm to TigerDeacon
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Dropping some fertilizer on your food plots will do wonders for your deer utilization.
What do you recommend? I think the WI website said to spread a little 13-13-13 but I may have read that somewhere else.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:42 pm to 4X4DEMON
I've got 5 acres in forage soybeans right now. They are about belly button high. Feeding lots of deer.
The rest of my fields are still fully of the clover that has survived (the rain is keeping it going later than usual, but its starting to go dormant).
For this coming season, I'll be drilling oats, wheat, and brassica mix in with the soybeans once they defoliate. I'll have other food plots planted in a mix of white and red clover and chicory. Others will be planted in a mix of turnips, forage radishes, and dwarf essex rape.
The rest of my fields are still fully of the clover that has survived (the rain is keeping it going later than usual, but its starting to go dormant).
For this coming season, I'll be drilling oats, wheat, and brassica mix in with the soybeans once they defoliate. I'll have other food plots planted in a mix of white and red clover and chicory. Others will be planted in a mix of turnips, forage radishes, and dwarf essex rape.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:44 pm to DucksnBucks37
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The Evolved Plot mixers Alfalfa & Chicory are specially selected varieties with deep tap roots (over a foot long) making them very drought resistant.
Alfalfa usually does really bad in the Deep South. I would double check on that variety before you plant. It may be a genetically enhanced alfalfa that does better down here, I don't know. That's just the rule of thumb. Chicory does great.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:50 pm to 4X4DEMON
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What do you recommend?
I am the wrong person to recommend but we usually just put out 8-8-8 or 13-13-13 depending on how fertilizer prices are running at the time. However, with clover we shouldn't have to put out as much nitrogen but we usually do anyway.
I will also saw that several years ago we put a dump truck load of lime on our two main fields which we then tilled into the ground. That has made a difference as well.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 1:55 pm to 4X4DEMON
I'd do a little soil sampling if you want to be real specific. If not, ask your local co-op guy.
On average, anywhere in the South likely needs lime to raise the pH. We use 13-13-13 alot but it depends on if you have any legumes planted or not (clover, soybeans, peas, lablab all make their own nitrogen).
On average, anywhere in the South likely needs lime to raise the pH. We use 13-13-13 alot but it depends on if you have any legumes planted or not (clover, soybeans, peas, lablab all make their own nitrogen).
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:36 pm to CajunSqueal16
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Alfalfa usually does really bad in the Deep South. I would double check on that variety before you plant. It may be a genetically enhanced alfalfa that does better down here, I don't know. That's just the rule of thumb. Chicory does great.
I'm growing them both right now in Baton Rouge.... They are specialized varieties meant to be grown anywhere. When you see the tap roots from the pics I'm about to post you will see why
Posted on 7/9/14 at 2:41 pm to DucksnBucks37
Posted on 7/9/14 at 3:13 pm to 4X4DEMON
I live in La. But have property in Alabama. I am south of Montgomery with pine stands and hardwood bottoms. I don't plant until late sept to mid October try to time rain if I can. Our season runs later than La. I will plant oats. That is if the clover looks ok. Rape did not take last year because the deer ate it too fast. Hope we have another good white oak crop to take the pressure off of the food plots.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 4:07 pm to Ppro
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Rape did not take last year because the deer ate it too fast.
For some reason they don't hit our brassicas (rape) until they mature. We usually mix them with clover, oats, and wheat. I guess they hit the cereal grains hard on germination and then move to the brassicas. North of the Deep South, they often don't hit brassicas until it gets really cold. The first couple of frosts turn all the starch in the leaf into glucose and then the deer really hit it. I've seen them digging bulbs up out of the ground. They don't seem to react the same way down here. They really eat the tops but they don't seem to like the bulbs.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 4:25 pm to CajunSqueal16
They like anything that has new growth. That's one reason why it is important to mow the clover right before season. Stimulates new growth.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 5:06 pm to CajunSqueal16
In these plots we planted oats, red clover, and rape. We planted heavy on the rape but got mainly clover and oats at mid year and late. We are no experts and assume it was due to high deer traffic eating this early. Maybe just didn't get it to grow because we saw almost nothing of this grow to any real size.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:56 pm to Ppro
The best food plot seeds are PlotSpike brand cleaned and bagged in Louisiana. The PlotSpike Forage Oats are LSU developed oats specifically bred for forage production.
Also PlotSpike does not put cheap coatings on their seed like other companies--particularly whitetail institute.
Here is what they say on their website.
LINK
I plant them every year.
Also PlotSpike does not put cheap coatings on their seed like other companies--particularly whitetail institute.
Here is what they say on their website.
LINK
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PlotSpike sources, packs, and contract produces all our own seed. We know the origin of our seeds and the genetic capabilities of our varieties. We have several varieties, like our Forage Oats, that are only available from PlotSpike and were developed just for our customers. We sell pure, proven, and premium seeds with no fillers or unnecessary coatings. Because of that all our seeds for food plots are guaranteed! If for any reason you fail to get a stand we will replace your seed. Call us toll free at (800) 264-5281, and we will send the replacement seed directly to you--no need to return to your retailer.
I plant them every year.
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