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Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:42 pm to
man the best pro's in the game not to mention the guys that came up with the training standards most use in todays training all use E collars.

You're telling me guys like Lardy, Akin, and Autrey are all training dogs that are not ready to hunt because they use e collars?

Edit: I get the finding game before you shoot it comment. But this thread is about DUCK dogs. What's best for duck hunting.
This post was edited on 12/22/15 at 2:44 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

man the best pro's in the game not to mention the guys that came up with the training standards most use in todays training all use E collars.

You're telling me guys like Lardy, Akin, and Autrey are all training dogs that are not ready to hunt because they use e collars?




you obviously have trouble reading..... what I said was a dog that requires an E collar to HUNT is not ready to hunt....

I use an e-collar to train - only use them hunting under extremely rare circumstances... if a dog still needs electronic stimulation to hunt - if you are saying that dog is finished and ready to hunt - you just won my argument for me.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:45 pm to
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A pudelpointer, while hard to find, is a great duck and upland bird dog



all five that I have seen were decent dogs.... had great owners though..
Posted by Rockbrc
Attic
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:46 pm to
My 14 year-old Brittany is the most versatile dog I've ever owned. Retrieves well over water or land. Solid on quail and thinks dove-hunting is a scrimmage. Slowed down some in the last couple of years but still a fun dog to hunt with.
Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
1092 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:50 pm to
Your meaning wasn't as clear as you think.

I still see no issue with a dog wearing an e collar on a hunt. That's done by hunters and trainers on dogs of high pedigree/titles every day in a duck blind. Just because the dog is wearing it doesn't mean you have to use it.


So when you train a dog to the finished level it never makes a mistake in the field that needs a correction? Even a finished dog will make a mistake in the field that needs correction at some point.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

Edit: I get the finding game before you shoot it comment. But this thread is about DUCK dogs. What's best for duck hunting.


aware of that - and I have stated that GSP not best choice for duck hunting and why..

in my opine.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30527 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 2:54 pm to
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So when you train a dog to the finished level it never makes a mistake in the field that needs a correction? Even a finished dog will make a mistake in the field that needs correction at some point.




actually once I am hunting I would rather focus on hunting and correct the issues in a controlled training environment.


except for things that are life or limb threatening to the dog...

Posted by bababooey
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2009
1092 posts
Posted on 12/22/15 at 3:05 pm to
I guess to each his own. When I set a standard I expect the dog to keep that standard in hunting. You can train until the cows come home but mistakes are going to happen. If they make a mistake I want to be able to correct it timely and not let a bad habit form.
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