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re: DIY Sprinkler system - Advice

Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:26 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28500 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 1:26 pm to
Thanks guys. I guess i'll raise my standards a bit(and budget), and get a more professional system.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:48 pm to
OK, I was perfectly content to just continue to lurk here, but I am looking at installing a very similar DIY system and would like to keep the discussion going to make sure I'm not missing anything.

I have the same three outlet timer, and plan to use 3/4" polyetheline tubing with perma-loc connectors. I will run a total of six Rain Bird 32SA rotors (with about 20-30 ft. spray radius) on my front lawn which measures about 80 by 100 ft. I plan on putting three rotors on a single outlet (zone). I'm also using 50 PSI pressure reducers to protect the lines and rotors. I measured my hose bib and it puts out 10 GPM at around 75 PSI. After bouncing the idea off a few professional landscapers, they all agree it should work.

I plan on mocking it up above ground first to make sure, but worst case scenario, I will have to use three zones(2 rotors per outlet) instead of two.

I called Rain Bird and they also think it will work.

The whole enchilada will cost right at $200 assuming I don't have to rent a trencher. This will be perfect for those short summer droughts that always seem to kill my centipede.

Can anyone see a reason why this wouldn't work?

This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted by Daponch
Da Nortchore
Member since Mar 2013
996 posts
Posted on 8/25/15 at 11:18 pm to
GPM is as important at psi. Larger diameter pipe will move water better without water hammer, friction, etc. Install it right or expect repairs sooner than later. Make sure you do some type of backflow protection for your potable water. Here is a link for you DIY's. LINK
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17669 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 7:37 am to
I have did my own intstall it was easy use 1. In pipe I like the hunter products much better than the others. Go to their website they have plenty of info.

Biggest mistake people make is in the spring and wash any pre emergant off that they used on their lawn, use it sparingly until you are in the growing season
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 7:39 am
Posted by convertedtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
2785 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 8:39 am to
Just an FYI, I went through three of the exact timer that the OP posted. All three developed leaks where the pipe connects to the main housing within the first month.
Posted by TAMU-93
Sachse, TX
Member since Oct 2012
896 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

The controller shown is for a very small, low flow area. You need a real system. Use the Rainbird website. They have a design service where they design it for you. They have videos of how to do everything. I've done a few. It's not rocket science just labor intensive.


This is good advice. Rainbird will provide you with a professionally designed plan and an item list to complete your project.

Also trenching machines suck in clay. The teeth get packed and stop cutting. And wheels just spin if the clay is wet.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29268 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 10:53 am to
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DIY Sprinkler system - Advice


My advice is that this is definitely something you don't want to do yourself.

When you are paying someone who is licensed, you are not only paying them to install it, you are paying them for their expertise to know what you really need, to fix things when things break at first, being able to be on their list when something breaks, freezes, etc, and their insurance if something goes bad. Plus, it is on them if they cut something installing the system.

If you do install it yourself, be sure to call to have all the underground lines marked.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:29 am to
I am sort of concerned about the plastic connectors too - especially with the weight of the three outlet controller.

I was relieved to see it now comes with a metal support that mounts it directly to the wall, taking the pressure off of the connector. I may even rig something better up and mount it on a stake or directly on the wall (its hidden behind a bush).

Bottom line is, the idea should work well if you are like me and only need watering for a few weeks out of the year. Why drop $2500 on a professional system unless you need constant watering throughout your entire landscape?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28500 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 11:49 am to
quote:

My advice is that this is definitely something you don't want to do yourself.


Seems like a common theme. The problem is, i'm cheaper than I am smart.

I had my wife in the yard with me yesterday marking areas for the rotors. Once she realized i was doing all this myself, she dropped the tape measure and went back inside. So supportive.
Posted by nogoodjr
Member since Feb 2006
795 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

My advice is that this is definitely something you don't want to do yourself.


To each his own. I got 3 bids for my project from professional installation companies. They ranges from 3300-5000.00. I purchased all parts including an expensive controller for 800.00 delivered. 100.00 to rent the trencher. Professional designed it at rainbird based off my yard dimensions. 10 years later, still works great. I'm running off of a well which complicates design and performance much more.

Most plumbing supply houses know someone who does "side work" from the bigger professional companies. They can help with the install.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 8/26/15 at 6:07 pm to
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SportTiger1


Your idea will work as long as the water source puts out enough flow (GPM) and pressure to accommodate the rotors and you don't need more zones than you have outlets on the controller. Rain Bird publishes the flow rates for their rotors with each nozzle size. Make sure you have some additional flow left over to account for friction and other inefficiency. The larger lines should minimize this.

For example, if your rotor uses 3 GPM at 50 psi, and your hose bib puts out 8 GPM at 50 psi, don't put more than 2 rotors on each outlet (zone). As long as you run each zone one at a time, it should work.

If you want to do a sophisticated scheme to water your entire lawn and landscaping, hire a pro.

ETA: measure your flow with the timer installed. It will reduce your flow rate some.
This post was edited on 8/26/15 at 7:35 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 8/29/15 at 10:58 pm to
UPDATE:
I installed mine today and it works like a Jamaican. I'm blown away by how well it covers. The poly pipe worked really well as long as you get the lengths right. Too long and it kinks, too short and it won't stretch.

Posted by doliss
Northern VA
Member since Sep 2009
984 posts
Posted on 8/30/15 at 10:24 am to
Anyone have any experience with lawn belt products?

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Seems like the pipe is good quality and they had issues with the sprayer connections but have been fixed by increasing the thickness of the plastic. Got 1/2 acre to water and this looks pretty tempting
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