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re: Culling Deer / Management Bucks / always a friendly topic on the OB

Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:22 pm to
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4308 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:22 pm to
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No, I think the button bucks you shoot thinking they are does are fawns.

I've made that mistake with a buttons, but several times with actual 1 1/2 yo spikes. (Most of those were prior to LASIK surgery; I see better now!)
Posted by ZacAttack
The Land Mass
Member since Oct 2012
6416 posts
Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:24 pm to
Can't eat antlers.
Posted by cajuncat
Austin, Texas
Member since Oct 2013
24 posts
Posted on 10/25/13 at 4:56 pm to
Interesting, related article about management of deer: LINK /
Posted by 007mag
Death Valley, Sec. 408
Member since Dec 2011
3873 posts
Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:03 pm to
What I gathered was an average difference of only 14" between spikes and fork horns by 4.5 yrs and spikes ranged up to 145" at 4.5. 145" is a damned good deer in my way of thinking. BTW has anyone mentioned that trail cameras have proven while you're dragging out a cull buck a ten point will stroll past your unoccupied stand.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 7:45 am to
Was this conducted all on high fence ranches? If so the results aren't going to apply to free range whitetails. When you control the population, buck/doe ratios and hunting pressure you have a short intense rut. This results in most fawns being born in a relatively small window leaving genetics and food being the determining factor on what a bucks first set of antlers look like. There will be very few doe that enter estrous twice in a year.

Free range whitetails, especially in the south, go through a much longer rutting period. Skewed buck/doe ratios, overpopulation, and long gun seasons result in doe being bred anywhere from October to January. This can absolutely result in a buck with great genetics being a late born fawn and having spikes as a 1.5 year old.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:09 am to
Funny how I've never seen forked horns still hanging with momma the next year but seen plenty of spikes that hang around
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
15773 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:31 am to
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:47 am to
Most surprising to me is that only 5% of deer over a 13 year period scored over 150. Shows you how rare and impressive a 150 and up really is. I would have thought it was higher.
Posted by cajuncat
Austin, Texas
Member since Oct 2013
24 posts
Posted on 10/26/13 at 9:49 am to
It seems age is the biggest factor with regards to antler size, but spikes do on average end up being a bit smaller than their buds. I'd take a 145 inch deer regardless of how he started.
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