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re: Culling Deer / Management Bucks / always a friendly topic on the OB
Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:22 pm to MillerMan
Posted on 6/18/13 at 10:22 pm to MillerMan
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No, I think the button bucks you shoot thinking they are does are fawns.
I've made that mistake with a buttons, but several times with actual 1 1/2 yo spikes. (Most of those were prior to LASIK surgery; I see better now!)
Posted on 10/25/13 at 10:03 pm to TexasTiger
What I gathered was an average difference of only 14" between spikes and fork horns by 4.5 yrs and spikes ranged up to 145" at 4.5. 145" is a damned good deer in my way of thinking. BTW has anyone mentioned that trail cameras have proven while you're dragging out a cull buck a ten point will stroll past your unoccupied stand.
Posted on 10/26/13 at 7:45 am to TexasTiger
Was this conducted all on high fence ranches? If so the results aren't going to apply to free range whitetails. When you control the population, buck/doe ratios and hunting pressure you have a short intense rut. This results in most fawns being born in a relatively small window leaving genetics and food being the determining factor on what a bucks first set of antlers look like. There will be very few doe that enter estrous twice in a year.
Free range whitetails, especially in the south, go through a much longer rutting period. Skewed buck/doe ratios, overpopulation, and long gun seasons result in doe being bred anywhere from October to January. This can absolutely result in a buck with great genetics being a late born fawn and having spikes as a 1.5 year old.
Free range whitetails, especially in the south, go through a much longer rutting period. Skewed buck/doe ratios, overpopulation, and long gun seasons result in doe being bred anywhere from October to January. This can absolutely result in a buck with great genetics being a late born fawn and having spikes as a 1.5 year old.
Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:09 am to Raz4back
Funny how I've never seen forked horns still hanging with momma the next year but seen plenty of spikes that hang around
Posted on 10/26/13 at 8:47 am to TexasTiger
Most surprising to me is that only 5% of deer over a 13 year period scored over 150. Shows you how rare and impressive a 150 and up really is. I would have thought it was higher.
Posted on 10/26/13 at 9:49 am to rlp
It seems age is the biggest factor with regards to antler size, but spikes do on average end up being a bit smaller than their buds. I'd take a 145 inch deer regardless of how he started.
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