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Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:27 am to 9rocket
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I did not consider people wanting to conserve them for continuous income.
Understandable since humans don’t have a great track record of doing this. Just look at our fisheries. Commercial fishermen were never going to self regulate so now we have government mandated limits.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 9:59 am to greenbean
What's not helping control the population, as far as Texas is concerned, is the fact that all of the land is privately owned and you have to pay 400-600 dollars on the cheap end to go and shoot 2-3 hogs. If the hogs damage farmer's crops they simply file a claim and receive payments for the damaged crop. So, there is nothing incentivizing the land owners to release the flood gates on hog control because either way they are getting paid. Poison would just be stupid and such a waste.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:18 am to greenbean
Mountain Lions..
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:19 am to mtb010
I was about to post that same thing. I live in Texas and would love to go shoot hogs. I’d do it for free. But like you say, all the land is private and nobody is inviting me to do it besides the ranches that charge $300 just to show up and then $1 per pound for every hog killed.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:20 am to mtb010
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you have to pay 400-600 dollars on the cheap end to go and shoot 2-3 hogs
I took my son hog hunting in June at a ranch outside Seguin. Had a great time but I spent $1,000 just to shoot 6 pigs.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 11:28 am to biglego
Why don't ranches just turn pit bull packs loose to kill the hogs?
I went on a hog hunt in Alabama and they used pit's - it was a bloodbath when those dogs zoned in.
I went on a hog hunt in Alabama and they used pit's - it was a bloodbath when those dogs zoned in.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:25 pm to 9rocket
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I just figured having hunters go after them in a concerted effort would seriously deplete the numbers
The irony of it is that this has happened with other species unintentionally (ducks, deer, turkeys), but would likely never work against hogs because of how differently those species breed.
It sounds like a great idea, but the same reason bounties haven't worked on nutria is the same reason it won't work on hogs--they just breed to damn much. Even with a bunch of people in the woods going after them, it likely wouldn't be enough to get the population under control. But, I could be wrong.
I can't say with certainty that a bounty would result in people purposely keeping them around, but people move the damn things around to sell hunts, so it's plausible that people would purposely leave hogs around just to let them reproduce and keep the bounties going.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:35 pm to CoachDon
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I went on a hog hunt in Alabama and they used pit's - it was a bloodbath when those dogs zoned in.
It's a great way to catch a few pigs but like hunting it's not enough to really impact the population in a significant way if not used with other control methods. It's best used to catch stragglers after trapping/night hunting has seriously depleted the sounders.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:47 pm to baldona
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How many acres you talking about? I always find it interesting when someone has a massive hog problem on 3,000 acres and claims they don’t have the financial ability to handle it.
In my case 80 continuous acres divided by 4 land owners.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 2:56 pm to greenbean
Convince the Democrats that hogs create carbon emissions worse than cows and gasoline engines and they will dedicate billions to eradicate them from the planet like they are doing to the oil and gas industry and beef industry.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:09 pm to Cowboyfan89
Now that you mention it, I have heard about people moving hogs around to sell hunts.
Friend of mine paid for a hunt in Texas, was told the place was crawling with hogs spent first two days without seeing a hog, hog track, or any other sign. After complaining to the hunt seller, I believe he led them to an enclosure with a bunch of newly shipped in hogs, all very skinny, and was told they could shoot some of those. I believe they declined.
I am a little fuzzy on these details, I will check and report back.
Friend of mine paid for a hunt in Texas, was told the place was crawling with hogs spent first two days without seeing a hog, hog track, or any other sign. After complaining to the hunt seller, I believe he led them to an enclosure with a bunch of newly shipped in hogs, all very skinny, and was told they could shoot some of those. I believe they declined.
I am a little fuzzy on these details, I will check and report back.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:15 pm to greenbean
I’ve posted this before. So the state of MS has a trap program that you can partner up with adjoining properties that make up over 1000 acres of continuous land and get a trap set up.
The ONLY way to dent the population at all is not to hunt, but rather to trap entire sounders using the satellite controlled gates with 24x24 pens. Then slaughter IMMEDIATELY and remove carcasses.
We’ve killed 56 on our contiguous property of 1000 acres just this summer and we have another two sounders on camera to catch.
The ONLY way to dent the population at all is not to hunt, but rather to trap entire sounders using the satellite controlled gates with 24x24 pens. Then slaughter IMMEDIATELY and remove carcasses.
We’ve killed 56 on our contiguous property of 1000 acres just this summer and we have another two sounders on camera to catch.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:56 pm to biglego
quote:I would have charged half of that amount.
I took my son hog hunting in June at a ranch outside Seguin.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:26 pm to The Levee
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I’ve posted this before. So the state of MS has a trap program that you can partner up with adjoining properties that make up over 1000 acres of continuous land and get a trap set up.
The ONLY way to dent the population at all is not to hunt, but rather to trap entire sounders using the satellite controlled gates with 24x24 pens. Then slaughter IMMEDIATELY and remove carcasses.
We’ve killed 56 on our contiguous property of 1000 acres just this summer and we have another two sounders on camera to catch.
Yuup, unfortunately we can't come close to meeting the 1000 continuous acres. Our surrounding properties are mostly heir property in 20-50 acre plots and many of the current owners are out of the area. We have about 80 continuous acres.
Concur that trapping is likely the best solution.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:40 pm to greenbean
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Yuup, unfortunately we can't come close to meeting the 1000 continuous acres. Our surrounding properties are mostly heir property in 20-50 acre plots and many of the current owners are out of the area. We have about 80 continuous acres.
You should partner up with other TD posters in your area that are having hog issues (lord knows there are quite a few) and yall all chip in to buy the whole system and share it by 3 month intervals. LINK
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:48 pm to The Levee
Charging you to hunt hogs? WTF? Texas should start taxing landowners that have them like 10 bucks a hog. Mississippi tried bounty, kinda helped but not much.
You can come shoot them for free in Mississippi and Bama, probably because you mfers in Texas let private land owners dictate your public policy in Texas and became a “pig sanctuary” state as they definitely came from the West
You can come shoot them for free in Mississippi and Bama, probably because you mfers in Texas let private land owners dictate your public policy in Texas and became a “pig sanctuary” state as they definitely came from the West
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:11 pm to The Levee
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You should partner up with other TD posters in your area that are having hog issues (lord knows there are quite a few) and yall all chip in to buy the whole system and share it by 3 month intervals. LINK
I read somewhere that LA has a program where traps can be rented for a reasonable monthly fee.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:13 pm to greenbean
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I read somewhere that LA has a program where traps can be rented for a reasonable monthly fee.
All in all it’s only $5,000. Start saving and you could pay for it in two years. Finance it and write it off.
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:20 pm to The Levee
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All in all it’s only $5,000. Start saving and you could pay for it in two years. Finance it and write it off.
My county extension agent has an upcoming meeting with the State Ag Commissioner, hopeful the tight a__ State of MS will come off some money to help control the hogs.
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