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CHL, good ankle holster, and good gun for same?

Posted on 10/1/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 9:13 am
My job and my work clothes allows for an ankle holster to (to my mind) be an option.

The security in my areas is becoming lacking.

I'm not super gun guy, but own a handgun that is far too heavy for this discussion.

This would be a CCCCHL. Emphasis on "C". Some areas if it were known, I'd be fired.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38829 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 9:16 am to
shield or G43 and those stretchy Velcro holsters are pretty comfy
I can't get comfortable with a gun in my pants so that's what I use
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 9:20 am to
quote:

elcro holsters are pretty comfy
I can't get comfortable with a gun in my pants so that's what I use



Me either. Having something in my waist would be easier to see, and I'd constantly fiddle with it.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 9:30 am to
I'll do the obligatory: good luck reaching down to your ankle when you are running away while someone is shooting at you.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5345 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 10:21 am to
Not a fan of ankle holsters. Think of the situations you may be in when having to draw the weapon. It really limits what and how you can defend yourself.

Remember carrying is not about feeling safe, it's about giving you a true fightning chance.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 10:56 am to
If seen, I am fired.

I only want it in a situation I am so scared I do not care about my job any longer. Which I guess should apply to all scenarios where you draw a gun.

Give me another option?

Work attire would be scrubs.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38829 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 11:05 am to
better than empty handed
the one time I felt like it needed to be closer at hand I pulled it out and stuck it in my waistband. I doubt I could draw quickly enough from under my shirt anyway
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5345 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Work attire would be scrubs.


Can't carry in hospitals so if you are working in one, its a mute point.

Honestly if you are working at a job that's forbids carry and you fear for your safety to the point of risking losing your job , number one thing to do is get another job. It's not worth getting fired and having that show up on a when next employer checks to see why. We still have a ways ago to work on carrying rights. It's unfortunate to say that with a second amendment but it's where we are.
Can you at least have gun in car? My employer doesn't allow carry in the plant but car is fine.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/1/16 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Can't carry in hospitals so if you are working in one, its a mute point.



Not in hospital.

A real full service hospital has real security. I am on the periphery.

Yes, in the car is fine. But if I left the building to get a gun from the car, I'm not going back in. I'm calling 911 and defending myself from car or driving away. Whatever the situation warranted. I make no claims to be Billy Badass or Jason Bourne. I've neither the desire nor training to re-enter a building I fled from.

Posted by Sea Hoss
North Alabama
Member since Jul 2013
852 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 11:28 am to
I also wear scrubs everyday but employer is a Gov't. facility so no carrying of any kind. One option that I use (not at work) is a S&W Bodyguard with a Technaclip I/S my work boot. Unless they take your pants off no one will know. That only works if you wear 8-10" boots to work.
Posted by Timmayy
Houston
Member since Mar 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:27 pm to
One of the bellyband with a shield or Glock 43 would have to be my suggestion. Scrubs would cover its very very well you can appendix carry it and it would never be an issue. Plus it's a much better situation if you have to draw from the appendix belly band rather than from the ankle. Crossbreed makes a good setup where you still get a kydex shell to protect the trigger guard.
Posted by GoHoGsGo06
Member since Nov 2006
5739 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 1:42 pm to
I am saying this in seriousness: look into the fanny pack holsters. It'll be lend in with what you are already wearing; just throws some gauges and cotton balls and other nurse type stuff in there with the gun.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

One of the bellyband with a shield or Glock 43 would have to be my suggestion. Scrubs would cover it very very well you can appendix carry it and it would never be an issue. Plus it's a much better situation if you have to draw from the appendix belly band rather than from the ankle.
I have several surgical nurses and two doctors as students --- belly bands are the really simple way to carry while wearing scrubs.

And I'll second the previous obligatory "good luck reaching for an ankle holster while running." Ankle holsters are a decent choice for (a) a backup gun or (b) an Uber/UPS driver.

Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6813 posts
Posted on 10/2/16 at 3:11 pm to
Not to pile on, but for all the reasons already mentioned I'm also not a fan of ankle carry, Plus, I don't know of anyone who started out w/ ankle carry for their primary gun that hasn't changed to some other means of cc. I don't think IWB will work w/ scrubs as the scrubs won't have "enough" belt for the holster to attach to and retain it; during the draw the gun is going to stay in the holster and the holster is going to pull away from the scrubs instead of staying attached to the scrubs.

quote:

Give me another option?

Work attire would be scrubs.



Disclaimer: I've not personally tried any of these methods of cc.
1. The aforementioned elastic/velcro belly band.
2. Thunerwear holsters.
3. Holster shirts.
4. Possibly altering the pants of your scrub suits. Again, I've not tried it, but for someone who wears scrub pants w/ a large leg pocket, the pocket could be modified for cc purposes. A small gun like a 380 w/ a pocket holster could be carried in the leg pocket and a long piece of velcro or multiple large buttons used to keep the pocket closed.

Leg us know what you end up doing.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:06 am to
Appreciate all the responses.

I work in Katy/Houston not Kabul. Some of this is a bit much.

Plus anything on waste or torso will be noticed or felt. I occasionally lift a patient. They'll feel a gun on my waist. Or the gun will knock against a side rail. I will be reported. I will be fired, and possibly have liscence suspended or revoked.

Things in a hospital setting simmer and boil over. My first job will always be to distance myself from danger while securing others or telling them to gtfo if feasible.

Well intentioned, but this thread has devolved into a tactical discussion. Shirts do not work as the gun will be felt and I would have to reach down my neck hole or under the scrub top. Either would be as awkward as an ankle draw. A fanny pack would draw attention as I have never worn one in 15 years. Fanny packs are very 1990's in society as well as in healthcare.

Regular baggy drawstring scrub pants have a huge ankle/foot opening. It's the most feasible for not being detected and not complicating normal patient care.

Most hospital situations escalate. Which means there is time to escape and hide. We are expected to snivel in a locked room and pray to Jesus that a shooter does not come. My plan is to be armed if ever hiding in that room. Basically if I am in a "draw" situation, I'm gonna lose. Because for a person to walk into a place and start blasting, AND that first person is an unsuspecting me? I'm fricked regardless. People make noise in a hospital. There is ALWAYS a ruckus. Or a person who is gonna potentially have a weapon is known and is seen on camera. There is gonna be time to flee. If I am ambushed, I am ambushed? No tactical shirt or waistband is gonna stop that scenario.

One person has already been fired for removing their pistol (waist type holster) and putting it in their bag. This place allowed carry. But this person was no longer carrying as it was in his bag. Therefore it could be taken. So, that person was fired. I am sure that person removed it for a procedure or treatment (most plausible is holding a child or toddler for IV or sutures).

Bottom line, an ankle holster is better than (Godfather reference) my dick in my hand. And an ankle holster is the ONLY thing I would feel remotely comfortable with, and even then I am 50/50.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65045 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 9:15 am to
I just bought my wife a Sig P238 and I can't say enough good things about this pistol. Wish it were double action though. Fabulous little piece.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27007 posts
Posted on 10/3/16 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Sig P238 and I can't say enough good things about this pistol.


How does she like it?

Thats an angry little bastard when fired! I've seen but not shot one, and you are right. It is damned nice. I don't care about recoil, just wondering what your wife thought, as my wife MAY want one one day.
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