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re: BP money
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:51 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
So you took a check because you had to alter your plans for relaxation one summer?
yes, after it was paid for... thats like getting a hotel booked and paid, but then the hotel cancels on you with no refund
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Posted on 6/5/15 at 2:55 pm to Motorboat
quote:Appears you don't know what either butthurt or support means.
I can like support it like this:
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:00 pm to SCwTiger
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There is no end to the depths people will go to get their hands in the pot. Earlier this week during lunch I learned of a local attorney that was gathering people to make claims right after the spill. Had to send paperwork in and see if they got approved. A paving contractor I know just got a phone call about submitting more info. I don't understand how they had a loss at all from the spill (I know them). Same people can be overheard bashing other people for doing the same kind of shite.
The way the economic loss claims work, you don't necessarily have to have a loss in 2010. They analyze a 5 year period by month. If there is a 3 month period in each year that trended down in 2010 and remained down or went up a little in 2011, you can potentially get money.
It's not the cash grab people would have you believe. It's a cumbersome calculation and BP appeals most of them in the hopes of disqualifying the claim or hoping the claimant gives up or forgets.
IMO, shame on those who know they weren't affect at all (looking at you, funeral homes)...but, BP was also not smart enough to challenge the parameters of the claim process. They agreed to a very open ended calculation process, so many of these claimants are well within their rights as outlined by the settlement language.
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:02 pm to jordan21210
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:06 pm to OleBallCoach
quote:
We had a small class action filed in 2012 w/ BP. It primarily consisted of fellow sportsman that could and did prove that we made annual or bi-annual trips to affected areas of gulf coast to relax and fish as part of our vacation and that lifestyle was altered and the group of lawyers proved the case and we all walked away this spring with a nice check.
Wait. Let me get this straight. You make a once or twice a year trip to fish saltwater. Rather than just go to any one of the fisheries that were open you sued because you couldn't go to the same place you went last year?
I am skeptical.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:08 pm to jordan21210
quote:The people I'm talking about only go south to fish with guides, and have a hard time catching fish even then. They don't own anything or do any business in the area, and already have plenty of money. They just saw a chance to get some for free.
you can potentially get money
And I've always thought this attorney was reputable (just from hearing others talk), but my view of him is much different now.
Like I said though, not surprised at all at how low people will go for a dollabill.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:10 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
So you get in a wreck( cant fish, USE CAMP/ boat) when another car hits you (BP SPILL). u need a rental car(Camp, BOAT), because someone took your own away from you(BP stopping the fishing in given area around camp). You ask for the other person's insurance(BP) to compensate you( $ or Rental car) since THEY made your vehicle unusible (
yeah i could use my CAR for other things like a piece of art in the front yard because it doesnt run,( boat somewhere else, or just sit in my camp and stair at the ceiling) but it would not be used for its intended purpose,
Plus the years upon years of impact that it will do for the fishery( which is why i have a camp there in the first place).
so if the value of something goes down due to a company doing something illegal, do we not, as property owners or anyone else affected, have the right to sue said company?
yeah i could use my CAR for other things like a piece of art in the front yard because it doesnt run,( boat somewhere else, or just sit in my camp and stair at the ceiling) but it would not be used for its intended purpose,
Plus the years upon years of impact that it will do for the fishery( which is why i have a camp there in the first place).
so if the value of something goes down due to a company doing something illegal, do we not, as property owners or anyone else affected, have the right to sue said company?
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:11 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
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This post was edited on 11/17/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:13 pm to OleBallCoach
Coach, that is a legit claim in my opinion. I'm just bitching about the sorry people who get in on the claims just because they can. 
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:14 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
quote:
by Ice Cream Sammich
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
When BP drew this thing up, they could have easily restricted the economic loss zones to south LA, MS, coastal AL and TX only. They could have also wrote in a clause that required proving your business had a direct impact from the oil...but they didn't.
Instead, the zones included the entire states of LA, MS, and AL, plus coastal FL and TX. They only excluded moratoria and service industry (CPA's and Lawyers) from filing claims - literally anything else is/was fair game. I'm not saying it's right...I don't think some businesses should have filed claims...but I don't think they are wrong for trying. BP put the money and the settlement on the table, if you meet their qualifications and they have no basis to appeal your claim - then why not?
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:18 pm to Elusiveporpi
quote:
So you get in a wreck( cant fish, USE CAMP/ boat) when another car hits you (BP SPILL). u need a rental car(Camp, BOAT), because someone took your own away from you(BP stopping the fishing in given area around camp). You ask for the other person's insurance(BP) to compensate you( $ or Rental car) since THEY made your vehicle unusible (
being forced to rent a car and losing the ability to fish in a particular spot aren't even remotely close to being the same thing
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:24 pm to Salmon
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eing forced to rent a car and losing the ability to fish in a particular spot aren't even remotely close to being the same thing
Well no one has to drive just like no one has to fish. i pay to do both and if some dumbass screws that up for me and im paying for something that i now cannot use for its intended purpose due to illegal practices or operations, i want it fixed one way or another.
I saide WANT. Its MERICA, !!! doesnt mean i have to get it, but thats the point, checks and balanences
This post was edited on 6/5/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:25 pm to Elusiveporpi
you do what you do
I'll still call it pure hypocrisy
I'll still call it pure hypocrisy
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:25 pm to jordan21210
I could have gotten food stamps and welfare for years while in school. But you know what, I didn't. Again, just because one can be a leach, doesn't mean they should.
To the poster who explained the 10k dues, I agree with you. It appears you lost something of monetary value. Not just an inconvenience.
To the poster who explained the 10k dues, I agree with you. It appears you lost something of monetary value. Not just an inconvenience.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:27 pm to Salmon
quote:
you do what you do
I'll still call it pure hypocrisy
I like your style, you say your point and don't act like a girly man say there can be no other way of thinking
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:34 pm to Elusiveporpi
All I know is all those who did file a claim better have a legit claim. For the last 2 months here in Florida they (BP/Attorneys) have been running radio and TV spots about fraudulent BP claims being investigated and offering $ for those with information regarding fraudulent claims. So watch out if your claim is sketchy 'cause Gawd knows a Rat gonna Rat.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:35 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
quote:
I could have gotten food stamps and welfare for years while in school. But you know what, I didn't. Again, just because one can be a leach, doesn't mean they shou
I don't agree with a lot of companies that filed claims...but they aren't wrong for it.
I also doubt you could have gotten welfare as a student and I don't think welfare is the best comparison here anyway.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:37 pm to NattyLite
So there's people out there taking money for no reason other than it's offered, and I'm the whiney bitch.
10 frickin 4 cowboy.
BP owes a lot of people a lot of money. There are people claiming losses because they had a captains license that hasn't made them a dime of revenue in 15 years, or because they have a commercial fishing license but haven't sold a fish in 15 years, or had to take their boat fishing somewhere else for a year. Put them on the same rocket to Mars with the obamaphone recipients. Leave BP and their money to deal with those who they legitimately need to be dealing with.
10 frickin 4 cowboy.
BP owes a lot of people a lot of money. There are people claiming losses because they had a captains license that hasn't made them a dime of revenue in 15 years, or because they have a commercial fishing license but haven't sold a fish in 15 years, or had to take their boat fishing somewhere else for a year. Put them on the same rocket to Mars with the obamaphone recipients. Leave BP and their money to deal with those who they legitimately need to be dealing with.
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:38 pm to DeltaDoc
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Did the businesses that filed claims ever actually get paid money? I know some did in the beginning, but then BP took it to federal court to have the settlement thrown out. My understanding is BP lost - but they never really started paying claims again after they lost their petition. Is that pretty much everyone else's understanding as well?
I ask again...
Posted on 6/5/15 at 3:39 pm to DeltaDoc
Not sure. I don't own an affected business so I can't say.
There are an awful lot of new trucks and boats down in coonass country though.
There are an awful lot of new trucks and boats down in coonass country though.
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