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Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:42 pm
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:42 pm
I've been shooting archery for a couple years now and shoot back tension. I've run into a bad rut of missing right. Low right is my typical miss and it has been happening a lot more often and typically when I get tired. When the shot breaks the string side of my bow typically kicks left and the arrow misses right. Pretty sure I'm torquing it in some kind of way but can't seem to figure it out. Has someone run into this problem or have anyone with real knowledge of the sport besides youtube that can look at my form and make some corrections.

Thanks.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:56 pm to
Form and anchor point consistency is key. Both of which are difficult to maintain in the heat of a shot. A kisser button can help you get the right anchor spot every time which will help consistency. That alone has help me go from missing my first 4 shots on deer to killing 3 straight. Form and comfortability comes with practice. Don’t beat your self up becoming inaccurate with fatigue it happens. Once I start noticing my accuracy failing with fatigue during practice I stop. It really is as much of a mental state as physical I’ve found.

Also the follow through is important. Hold as if your taking another shot after you release. That will help reduce any premature movement you may have when you release.
This post was edited on 12/16/21 at 6:59 pm
Posted by Vlad
North AL
Member since May 2012
2605 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:58 pm to
Could be a ton of things, My guess would be time to re-string, re-cable, adjust arrow rest, and/or readjust peep. This is assuming that this just started happening.
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 6:59 pm to
I feel like my anchor and form are pretty solid as I have a nose button and when i go from anchor to nose on the string its in the same spot every time.
Posted by Piebald Panther
Member since Aug 2020
479 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:08 pm to
Are you missing the same way during practice shots or just on deer?

The low right would make me think your dropping the bow at release. I have a tendency to lift at release which kicks mine high and back.

If everything you’re doing is consistent then it’s time to look at the bow.

Posted by ItsBernie
Louisiana
Member since May 2019
268 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:16 pm to
Do a blind draw. Draw back and settle in then open your eyes. Everything should line up and it helps with muscle memory. Another thing that could be happening is dropping your bow arm to see that arrow impact. Repeatability is everything.

A few years ago I was having a similar issue. Talked to a tournament guy and he said to just practice shooting 1-3 arrows a session. My problem was I was shooting good in the beginning then after a while my form would break down and I would shoot terrible. Then I would start messing with my sight or rest and end up all messed up. The tournament guy told me to quit over thinking it and relax.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25071 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:23 pm to
Is your bow hand open or closed at draw?

I wonder if your pushing your bow right when you get tired, almost like a flinch.
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:25 pm to
Well in practice and i missed a deer doing the same exact thing this year. I feel like I am creating a bad habit and would like to identify it so I can maybe figure some things out. Anyone around the industry do online lessons/look at video that could diagnose what's going on?
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:27 pm to
I've done this and feel as if everything is correct and possibly just a fatigue issue.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25071 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:38 pm to
Video yourself in slowmo on your phone.

Posted by Ole Mule
Too far south
Member since Mar 2011
4555 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:42 pm to
Go to archerytalk dot com and post some pictures of your form and ask for some to look at it. There's some real helpful people on there.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:44 pm to
Be willing to bet you’re raising your front shoulder due to fatigue and slightly torquing. I won’t claim to be a form expert but it’s what happens to me. I’ve learned nothing good happens continuing to shoot after getting tired, and 10-15 good shots a day is better than 200 on the weekend.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1836 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 7:56 pm to
If it’s something that is happening as you fatigue, it’s likely you dropping your bow early. Don’t develop that habit. Are you shooting well for your first ten shots? If so, that’s how many you should shoot. Don’t shoot until you shoot bad.
For the deer though, that’s not good. Are you fighting you bubble level or fighting your peep? If you draw with your eyes closed and open them is your bubble level and peep centered?
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:16 pm to
Im thinking its my front arm/shoulder. When I fatigue I'm thinking I collapse my shoulder and result in torquing the bow with my hand on the grip.
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:17 pm to
My peep and bubble are fine for what I can tell. I never have to adjust anything out of the ordinary.

I really would like to know what goes wrong when I fatigue tho so I can fight through this and avoid it entirely.
Posted by KRobinson
Member since Jun 2016
220 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Be willing to bet you’re raising your front shoulder due to fatigue and slightly torquing. I won’t claim to be a form expert but it’s what happens to me. I’ve learned nothing good happens continuing to shoot after getting tired, and 10-15 good shots a day is better than 200 on the weekend.


This is great advice but I'd like to be able to shoot more.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1836 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:22 pm to
Well fatigue and making a bad shot on deer are different. When you say you shoot back tension, you have a hinge? It sounds you you are collapsing early as you get tired or when you aren’t thinking about fighting it in the stand.
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
3950 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:45 pm to
Highly likely that you are dropping your bow arm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17334 posts
Posted on 12/16/21 at 8:53 pm to
quote:

This is great advice but I'd like to be able to shoot more.


I was just throwing out round numbers, and that’s part of shooting daily. I shoot a shorter ata solocam, not the smoothest draw cycle or stable bow to hold. Daily repetition is the trick to it not beating me up, keeping the tension in the bigger back/shoulder muscles versus on the joints and arms. Once the muscle memory is there to not just hold with good form, but draw it properly, fatigue takes a lot longer to set in.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1836 posts
Posted on 12/17/21 at 7:27 am to
I’d also recommend you set your back tension heavy. It may already be. But on a hot back tension or hinge, it’s pretty easy to anticipate the shot and pull shots.
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