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re: Biofuel Growth Is Decimating Wildlife Habitat in Corn Belt
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:45 am to eyepooted
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:45 am to eyepooted
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This thread was suppose to be about ducks and fish. What I find interesting is that for the last couple of years DU and DW tell us that numbers are up yet, I don't see that.
You believe what DU and DW tell you?
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Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:46 am to JAB528
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I honestly don't think the heat is any worse than its ever been.
I dont either but every summer when it is goldarn hot outside I think of global warming.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:47 am to eyepooted
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DU and DW tell us that numbers are up yet, I don't see that. That, and that reason alone is the reason I thing that wetland depleation is a real issue. It isn't something that the yuppies are making up.
And here we go.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:49 am to treble hook
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You believe what DU and DW tell you?
I just told you I don't believe what they are says, just in alot more words.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:53 am to eyepooted
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I just told you I don't believe what they are says, just in alot more words
Gotcha.
But as to the topic of the OP...Some intelligent corn farmers were successful at lobbying and now we have this ethanol crap. It's really that simple. Has nothing to do with global warming or energy independence. No semi-intelligent human being actually thinks ethanol is the future.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 10:57 am to eyepooted
In my severely biased opinion, the whole problem is there are a bunch of gosh-damned hippies who think we are supposed to be farming corn with a bunch of solar-powered tractors. Until Jr. is driving something that doesn't burn petroleum at Daytona on Sunday (or Saturday, and sometimes Thursday) I'll continue to say we need to drill and just feed the polar bears and penguins to the starving pygmies in New Guinea...Amen.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:00 am to 34venture
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And here we go
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:01 am to JAB528
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:06 am to wickowick
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Net Change: -2.5 million acres
That's pretty disturbing.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:07 am to eyepooted
It is down 9.7 million acres in the last 5 years...
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:08 am to jimjackandjose
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You could cover every square inch of the united states with corn and it would not be enough to meet the demands of US gasoline users.
This whole thing has decreased mpg, engine life, ran up cost per gallon, ran up cost of every livestock feed you can by, run up the costs of milk and cereals.
In other words, completely ineffective. On top of that, there is enough oil in the US and Canada to sustain us for years.
There have also been studies that indicate that the fuel consumption needed to produce the corn and eventually ethanol is higher than the energy content of the ethanol output. Thus, it suggests that producing ethanol is actually a net energy loss.
Unfortunately, they haven't found a way to mass farm corn without large farm equipment and transportation infrastructure.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:09 am to wickowick
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wickowick
And we wonder why the bobwhite is disappearing.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:10 am to eyepooted
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And we wonder why the bobwhite is gone.
FIFY
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:24 am to Jester
Unfortunately corn is now king. It's in almost everything we eat, we feed it to all livestock and now we are fueling our cars with it. Until we once again diversify the crops grown in the US, and stop burning corn for fuel, Land use will not return to the way it was. Unfortunately the government retards have mandated that corn be used for fuel, and like others have said already you could grow corn from sea to shining sea and still not have enough to fuel all the cars. That is why corn production will continue to increase. Once again big brother has screwed us over.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 11:33 am to eyepooted
I rank Al Gore right up there with tv evangelist 
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:09 pm to eyepooted
So glad I'm at work and don't have time to type out my anger about biofuels.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:14 pm to wickowick
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It is down 9.7 million acres in the last 5 years...
This makes me want to vomit.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:19 pm to wiltznucs
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The overwhelming majority of the educated/scholarly community agrees that global warming is happening..
False
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There ecological benefits of the cleaner air from ethanol are tainted with the higher cost to produce ethanol when compared to gasoline, the effects on farmland listed in the article and also the overlooked impact which is an overall increase in the cost of food which impacts poor and lower income societal members.
True
Posted on 3/14/13 at 12:26 pm to wiltznucs
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The overwhelming majority of the educated/scholarly community agrees that global warming is happening..
Who? The liberal based media? Biofuels are a crock of shite, just look at what ethanol does to small engines. I also get better gas mileage when I run 100% gasoline. The gains don't outweigh the losses you get manufacturing biofuels IMO. Its just a way to make the hippies happy.
Posted on 3/14/13 at 1:16 pm to JAB528
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Who? The liberal based media?
The academic centers from the world over all agree on GW... If you want a challenge, find a single peer reviewed scientific journal article published in the past five years that refutes Global Warming is occuring. I'll save you the work and tell you there arent many. If you do find one, then look who sponsored it and I'll bet you a beer that it was funded by a Big Oil related company. Since we're discussing science we will not be counting any articles published by a blogger, journalist or scientist that refused to submit to peer review. Those are nothing more than Op-Ed pieces...
The evidence is irrefutable and undeniable, the planet has in fact gotten warmer over the past century plus. We have hard data that proves it. What's debatable and will never be truly known is whether or not its entirely a result of human activity or if some part of the warming is associated with normal planetary heating and cooling cycles. The Scientific/Academic community seems to think the timing corresponds so well to the Industrial Revolution to modern era that man is certainly the dominant factor.
To be clear, I'm with you in that biofuel and green energy has major issues right now. A very interesting debate topic that some folks could go on for days about.
This post was edited on 3/14/13 at 1:18 pm
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