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Best handgun for a smaller woman

Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:30 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:30 pm
I am looking at possibly getting a gun that my wife would have fun shooting as well as the ability to be used for home defense when I am on my business trips. Currently I only own 3 rifles (.22, .223, .308). The only one that she would be able to really handle would be the 10/22 but that does not provide home defense.

She is 90lbs and 5 feet tall. I have taken her to the range and she had fun shooting a walther .22 but that obviously does not fit the bill for protection.

I had seen a post on here about 9mm Shield that is on sale LINK. Would this be a gun that petite women would be able to shoot comfortably? I know it is a CC style gun, but wanted to get some advice since I myself am pretty new with handguns. Should we go with something totally different?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43518 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:32 pm to
Only way to know is to go out and practice with different weapons. I don't think you can expect a woman to just pick up a gun in a self defense situation and be able to do something with it with no practice time.

Personally I think a shotgun is a much better option if it's just for in the house.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 4:34 pm
Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
24848 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

Only way to know is to go out and practice with different weapons. I don't think you can expect a woman to just pick up a gun in a self defense situation and be able to do something with it with no practice time.


Well the problem at this point is that we have nothing for her to practice with. I wouldn't put a gun in her hands without a ton of practice.

I am sort of trying to get some advice on what characteristics work best for women without much weight to them vs effectiveness of the gun.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
3116 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 4:40 pm to
Bought my bride a Ruger LCP 380, with the laser. Compact size, easy for her to handle, light recoil, just point the laser, and squeeze the trigger.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
10447 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:00 pm to
I'd second on the Ruger LCP .380. Great little gun, and for the price you can't beat Ruger's customer service and reliability.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24976 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:00 pm to
Bapple will tell you that a full size is easier to shoot.

I agree. Glock 17, SIG 226, etc.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43518 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Bapple will tell you that a full size is easier to shoot.

I agree. Glock 17, SIG 226, etc.




yeah, some of the smaller guns the slide is harder to get a grip on and pull back.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12096 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:14 pm to
Glock 19
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8736 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 5:23 pm to
Can she rack the slide on a semi-auto pistol ? My biggest concern with SA's is stove pipe or jamming. Something to consider is a SP101 in 357. That way she can plink and target practice with .38's and load .357 Black Talons for self defense

Posted by bconne1
Member since Jun 2006
776 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 6:01 pm to
quote:

we have nothing for her to practice with.
Any half decent range will provide her with an assortment of pistols to try, and the really good guys will discount the cost of rental against the purchase.
Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 6:02 pm to
Whatever one she is most comfortable with.
Posted by BeauxNArreaux
Tennessee
Member since Jun 2016
747 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 7:01 pm to
Check out the Sig P238.
The .380 gives enough power for defense but recoil is minimal.
And the reason I suggest the Sig specifically is bc the slide is so easy to pull back. My mom got one about a year ago and she can't grip anything, but this gun she actually could grip and rack the slide.
Plus the trigger is very crisp, it's a 1911 style gun so very reliable, and there's a safety.
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10604 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 7:05 pm to
have her dry fire a revolver with the heavy double action pull vs. racking the slide of a small semi like Walther PPS M2. Which is easier for her? Go w/ that.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81617 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 7:09 pm to
Walther CCP. Women love them. Easy slide and comfortable grip.
Posted by uptowntiger84
uptown
Member since Jul 2011
3889 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 8:34 pm to
Can't go wrong with a s&w 357 and load it with 38. That's what I have my sa carrying.
Posted by ctiger69
Member since May 2005
30607 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:40 pm to
Full size 9 mm.
Posted by WMTigerFAN
Ouachita
Member since Feb 2005
4466 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 9:44 pm to
Racking the slide is easier for those with a weak grip when you just hold the slide and push the body of the gun forward. Especially if you're right handed. Have your wife try both techniques so see if one is easier.
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11887 posts
Posted on 10/22/17 at 11:14 pm to
quote:

Bapple will tell you that a full size is easier to shoot.


Every day of the week and twice on Sunday!

But in all honesty, those suggesting a P238 or a friggin LCP as a first gun for a woman could not possibly be suggesting a worse first gun. Those guns are super tiny, are chambered in 380, and are insanely difficult to control. I would ask you this - would you feel sufficiently equipped defending yourself with only 6 rounds of 380 in an LCP? If your answer is no then I don’t see why you’d suggest the same for your wife. A similar point could be said about a snub nose 38 revolver. Those things are a pain in the arse to shoot and while not a terrible suggestion it’s still not a great one.

I’m not here to knock on anyone’s decision or suggestion here but I tell the same thing to every single one of my students regardless of gender, size, race, creed, etc...

Full sized 9mm

It is by far the easiest platform to shoot outside of a 22 and has the added benefit of being good for self defense. I have yet to have a student come through my class that cannot shoot some variation of full sized 9mm. Some may have chunkier grips than others and some may be too skinny for a particular shooter but there is a different flavor of full sized 9mm out there for everyone.

Don’t be worried about her not being able to rack the slide. Using a proper overhand technique can remedy this issue immensely.

I’ll link a bookmarked thread I did a while back for a guy who wanted to get his wife a gun. And if you need some advise or some shooting lessons feel free to send me an email.

LINK

LINK

Bigapple828@aim.com

EDIT: And regardless of what you get for her or yourself, get some quality lessons first from a reputable instructor. The last thing you want is to purchase a gun for defense and have an easily preventable accident occur.
This post was edited on 10/22/17 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Propagandalf
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2010
2528 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 12:19 am to
As has been posted here ad infinitum, small person =/= small gun. With proper technique any adult human, barring legit health issues, can rack the slide of a semi-auto pistol. It comes down to willingness to learn technique and practice. In general, the bigger the gun, the more mass, = less recoil and = better follow up shots. It also generally equals more rounds in the mag, which is beneficial in a gun fight. Its probably pertinent to add getting a revolver and practicing with only .38s when IRL you'll be strictly using .357s in a life or death situation is not the best idea. Gunfighting also comes down to practice and wilingness to learn technique. Just like the act of buying or carrying around a guitar brings you no closer to being Jimi Hendrix, there's no gun that will turn you're petite, or not petite, female companion into Wild Bill Hickok. Of course giving someone a gun increases their ability to shoot an attacker versus someone without a gun, it also increases a lot of less desirable factors such as the ability to shoot an innocent bystander, arming an unarmed attacker, escalating a situation, negligent discharge, the list goes on. So again, practice in shooting, situational awareness and the law regarding use of force isthe key to sucessfully using a gun in self defense. Yes, it's easy to say frick that I'd rather have my SO alive than have her murdered, objectively think about all the situations where an untrained, and if female, a highly emotional reactionary/assuming, armed citizen could end up in jail or killed over mistakes made. There are situations that can be descalated with proper rhetoric, situations that you can escape from by leaving slowly or running and situations where guns blazing are the only way out. Obvuously, in the latter I'd rather a loved one have any gun than none, in the former situations I'd rather a loved one have sense over a gun. So, while I believe every unprohibited individual should have access to means to defend themselves, and that the individual should be prepared by their own validation to do so, not by government oversight (talking to you dawgXX3), the key to properly arming someone is as much education as it is handing them a gun.

So, to answer the OP the best handgun would be a full sized or compact sized semi auto pistol in 9mm that she can comfortably shoot. If she intends to carry the gun on her then the best option would be a semi pistol that sacrifices features of a full sized semi auto pistol, to increase concealability,that she is comfortable shooting.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 12:24 am
Posted by Cajun367
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2017
1928 posts
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:17 am to
I'm unfortunately in a position to see these things, and I'll tell you I've seen plenty people killed with a 22. Shots that you'd think were easily survivable.

NOT saying this is the best option, but if she's comfortable with one, still an option nonetheless.

Bet anyone who disagrees won't volunteer to be on the fire end of one either.
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