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Bergara B-14 Rifles
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:08 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 11:08 pm
Anyone know anything about these rifles? If so, how to the compare to the Tikka's. Reason I ask is because they chamber it in a 6.5 CM. Seems to be in that 700 dollar range. I know they are known to make good barrels, just didn't realize they made bolt guns until I was looking at getting another barrel for my Encore.
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Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:36 am to TigernMS12
My dad just got one in 6.5 Cred for Christmas. It is either the woodsman or timber. He put Zeis glass on it, boresighted. He was really impressed with the tight groups. Most 3 shot groups had 2 touching.
Beautiful rifle too.
Beautiful rifle too.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 9:51 am to TigernMS12
They make a B14 in 6.5x55swede
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:45 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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They make a B14 in 6.5x55swede
Between now and next deer season I'm expecting a post titled something like, "Guys, let me tell you about my new Swede"!!
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:51 am to TigerOnThe Hill
That swede with irons would be so incredibly awesome.
I'm buying a rifle this summer. I just don't know what yet. Glad to add this to the decision matrix
I'm buying a rifle this summer. I just don't know what yet. Glad to add this to the decision matrix
Posted on 1/14/17 at 1:54 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I'm thinking about getting my wife a B-14 (now) in 6.5 CM. I waited for the new Tikka models to come out hoping they would offer a 6.5 CM (in a hunting platform; not the CTR) and they haven't. Then I just on accident came over this rifle.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 3:50 pm to TigernMS12
The tikka is offered in 6.5x55 swede which is a spectacular deer caliber.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 4:35 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The tikka is offered in 6.5x55 swede which is a spectacular deer caliber.
Oh I know, it just seems the 6.5CM has taken off. I see much more factory hunting rounds on shelves in my area than the 6.5 Swede.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 5:11 pm to igchris
My dad's rifle came from either Tyner-petrus in Monroe, or Simmon's.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:23 pm to TigernMS12
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it just seems the 6.5CM has taken off. I see much more factory hunting rounds on shelves in my area than the 6.5 Swede.
Yeah, the Creedmoor is surely on more of an upswing right now than the 260 Rem and 6.5 Swede. This despite that fact that ballistically, all three are about the same. Put 'me in a bag, shake it and dump em out. That's about the extent of their differences. The main differences now are the CM's better availability of factory ammo & brass, as well as higher quality factory ammo. It'll be interesting to see where the CM is 10 years from now.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 10:26 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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Yeah, the Creedmoor is surely on more of an upswing right now than the 260 Rem and 6.5 Swede. This despite that fact that ballistically, all three are about the same. Put 'me in a bag, shake it and dump em out. That's about the extent of their differences. The main differences now are the CM's better availability of factory ammo & brass, as well as higher quality factory ammo. It'll be interesting to see where the CM is 10 years from now.
Pretty much this is why I want a CM over a Swede. Also, for hand Loaders, apparently (from my reading) the swede loads that are published are old and underperform what newer guns can handle when everything for the 6.5CM is obviously new and up to date.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:23 pm to TigernMS12
The crede piggybacked off the tactical popularity, being marketed from jumpstreet as a light recoiling long range caliber. Like TotH said, there's several ballistic equivalents out there. The crede was a tactical caliber first which created a buzz and the hunting community is just starting to embrace it. It's a fine deer caliber and IMO it won't be long at all before you start seeing it in all the popular deer rifles.
The swede suffers from being extremely old, European, and too long to fit in a standard short action. The .260 suffers from being boring. It's just a good deer caliber, like so many others out there.
The crede is the new kid on the block riding a wave of hype. It'll be around for a long time.
The swede suffers from being extremely old, European, and too long to fit in a standard short action. The .260 suffers from being boring. It's just a good deer caliber, like so many others out there.
The crede is the new kid on the block riding a wave of hype. It'll be around for a long time.
Posted on 1/14/17 at 11:43 pm to TigernMS12
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6.5CM is obviously new and up to date
The 6.5 Creedmoor does everything that the .308 does but better. The only drawback compared to .308 is barrel life but for a hunting rifle, this is a non-issue.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 12:36 am to ChatRabbit77
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The 6.5 Creedmoor does everything that the .308 does but better.
Uh.......nope...... Granted, the Creedmore makes for a fine whitetail deer gun, but there are situations where the venerable 308 is superior . There are times it's advantageous to have 30 caliber holes in a deer instead of 26 caliber holes. Plus, I think the 308 is better suited for heavier game than is the Creedmoor. There are certainly 308 loads w/ bullets that are heavier than is available in the Creedmoor. One of my favorite hunting handguns is a 260 Remington, but my 308 Win handgun still sees a lot of service. By your way of thinking, we should expect to see the Creedmoor replace the 308 at deer camps. Has your Creedmoor replaced your 308?
Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:30 pm to TigernMS12
Bump for update on whether you bought this rifle and if so your impressions
Posted on 2/25/17 at 10:35 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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TigerOnThe Hill
Just saw your response with this thread bump. My stating that 6.5 Creed does everything .308 does but better was in terms of ballistics. It will reach out to any range the .308 will but with flatter trajectory. I do think the .308 carries more energy.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 12:50 am to ChatRabbit77
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My stating that 6.5 Creed does everything .308 does but better was in terms of ballistics. It will reach out to any range the .308 will but with flatter trajectory.
Well sorta.....it's entirely dependent on the ranges one's shooting. Since the OP mentioned he was looking at a hunting platform, i answered the question from that angle. At typical hunting ranges w/ similar loads that are both zeroed for 200 yards, the 6.5 CM has no practical trajectory advantage over the 308 Win. Compare the trajectories of comparable hunting loads from Hornady (6.5 CM Superperformance w/ 129 gr SST bullet vs the Hornady 308 Win Superperformance w/ 150 gr SST bullet). The 6.5 CM drops 6.8" at 300 yds, 19.7" at 400 yards and 39.7" at 500 yards. The 308 Win drops 6.8" at 300 yards, 20.0" at 400 yards and 40.7" at 500 yards. The 6.5 CM was designed for various long range competitions and at this it's certainly better than the 308 Win. But at typical hunting ranges, the CM's trajectory is not significantly flatter than the 308 Win.
ETA: Hornady ballistics chart link.
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 12:54 am
Posted on 2/26/17 at 1:07 am to TigerOnThe Hill
Agree on that as well. I don't think for hunting ranges it will make a huge difference. I would personally be OK with using a 6.5 in the same situations as I would use a .308 for anything smaller than elk.
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Posted on 2/26/17 at 2:50 pm to ChatRabbit77
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I would personally be OK with using a 6.5 in the same situations as I would use a .308 for anything smaller than elk.
Using the right bullet, the 6.5 CM would be a reasonable choice for hunting all NA big game, outside of elk and dangerous bear. It would also be a really good youth gun if someone will develop a reduced recoil load.
Posted on 2/26/17 at 3:29 pm to MSWebfoot
Purchased at Simmons. B-14 woodsman. Simmons bore sighted it. Right out of the box , First three shots, 2 almost same hole, third less than 1/4". Adjusted scope one time, great 3 shot groups.
Trigger is a lot lighter than my other rifle, but I like it a lot. Beautiful rifle!
Trigger is a lot lighter than my other rifle, but I like it a lot. Beautiful rifle!
This post was edited on 2/26/17 at 3:38 pm
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