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AR purchase time...
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:10 am
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:10 am
I am looking to buy a new rifle. I want an AR style rifle that is multi-purpose. I already have a home defense shotgun (Benelli) and a Glock.
I am a city boy but want to learn to hunt because I want to teach my 2 boys to hunt so I want a good, dependable rifle for that. I also want a good rifle for when the zombie apocalypse goes down.
I am looking to spend $800-$900.
Advise please...
I am a city boy but want to learn to hunt because I want to teach my 2 boys to hunt so I want a good, dependable rifle for that. I also want a good rifle for when the zombie apocalypse goes down.
I am looking to spend $800-$900.
Advise please...
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:12 am
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:14 am to SDTiger15
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I am a city boy but want to learn to hunt because I want to teach my 2 boys to hunt so I want a good, dependable rifle for that.
If you aren't buying it for tacticool reasons or stockpiling thousands of rounds I would look into an AR chambered in .308 or 6.8spc there are also the remington AR style rifles chambered in a few popular hunting rounds. The down side to these is that high cap magazines are either hard to find/expensive or non-existent. Plus side is that they would actually be useful for big game hunting while still giving you the ergonomics and dependability of the AR platform.
Remington R25
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This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:17 am to bayoudude
I would forget the one rifle for everything deal and just buy an AR. Then later, go out and buy you a hunting rifle. You could buy a very good quality bolt action hunting rifle for less than $500 in a much more suitable caliber than you typical 5.56 AR.
And frankly, if you are teaching children about rifles, they don't need to learn on a semi-auto. A bolt action would be much more suitable for that.
And frankly, if you are teaching children about rifles, they don't need to learn on a semi-auto. A bolt action would be much more suitable for that.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:50 am to Hawgon
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And frankly, if you are teaching children about rifles, they don't need to learn on a semi-auto. A bolt action would be much more suitable for that
stick with the lighter recoil for the kids .243 or 7mm.08 How old are they?
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/7/11 at 11:52 am to LSUEnvy
oldest is 5 and I have a new born.
I have to learn first, then teach the boys
I have to learn first, then teach the boys
Posted on 9/7/11 at 1:16 pm to SDTiger15
I recommend going with someone who has some different rifles to choose from and try each of them out. The AR platform is good for a lot of things but not GREAT at much. Try starting with a .22 or 243 (perfect for kids to start shooting and VERY fun for adults!). The AR is a little more intimidating. You also may want to think about a shotgun. Every kid should learn to shoot a shot gun (the first gun I shot was a .410). And like previously posted, go with a bolt action rather than semi-auto. Less complicated and more accurate.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 1:32 pm to LSU_Lou
Kids do things like get excited and forget to put on safeties or pointing the muzzle at things they shouldn't...no matter how well you teach them. In that situation a semi-auto that has already put one in that chamber is not a good idea.
I'll bet that the first gun (not counting BB guns) for 80% of the men in the South over the age of 40 was a single shot .410 or 20 gauge.
I'll bet that the first gun (not counting BB guns) for 80% of the men in the South over the age of 40 was a single shot .410 or 20 gauge.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 1:42 pm to Hawgon
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I'll bet that the first gun (not counting BB guns) for 80% of the men in the South over the age of 40 was a single shot .410 or 20 gauge.
*shakes head yes
Posted on 9/7/11 at 1:53 pm to Hawgon
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I'll bet that the first gun (not counting BB guns) for 80% of the men in the South over the age of 40 was a single shot .410 or 20 gauge.
I'm 21 and mine was
Posted on 9/7/11 at 2:23 pm to Boats n Hose
same here first gun i shot was a crack barrel .410 my first gun was a 870 wingmaster pump .410 killed my first deer with it as well. Got the gun at age 8
ETA: I am 30
ETA: I am 30
This post was edited on 9/7/11 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 9/7/11 at 2:27 pm to Hawgon
Like others have said, I'd recommend a hunting rifle for learning how to hunt and teaching your kids.
If you really want the AR, thats fine. $900 could probably get you a nice DPMS, Bushmaster, or Rock River Arms at the gun show. Buy that, and then go get a hunting rifle.
243 and 7mm-08 are good calibers. They'll kill the shite out of a deer and are light on recoil (243 a little less than the 7mm-08). You can find a Savage, Mossberg, Remington, or Ruger for under $400 at a pawn shop or on LA Sportsmans classifieds.
I'd still recommend, starting with a BB gun ($50) just to teach them gun safety. Then a .410 ($150-200) to learn to handle the recoil, then a .22 to learn about rifles and how to shoot ($100-200), and then a high caliber rifle.
Mine was an H&R .410.
If you really want the AR, thats fine. $900 could probably get you a nice DPMS, Bushmaster, or Rock River Arms at the gun show. Buy that, and then go get a hunting rifle.
243 and 7mm-08 are good calibers. They'll kill the shite out of a deer and are light on recoil (243 a little less than the 7mm-08). You can find a Savage, Mossberg, Remington, or Ruger for under $400 at a pawn shop or on LA Sportsmans classifieds.
I'd still recommend, starting with a BB gun ($50) just to teach them gun safety. Then a .410 ($150-200) to learn to handle the recoil, then a .22 to learn about rifles and how to shoot ($100-200), and then a high caliber rifle.
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I'll bet that the first gun (not counting BB guns) for 80% of the men in the South over the age of 40 was a single shot .410 or 20 gauge.
Mine was an H&R .410.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 2:28 pm to bayoudude
I'm 39 and my first gun was a .410 single shot. I got it when I was 8 or 9 and still have it.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 2:29 pm to Slickback
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I'd still recommend, starting with a BB gun ($50) just to teach them gun safety. Then a .410 ($150-200) to learn to handle the recoil, then a .22 to learn about rifles and how to shoot ($100-200), and then a high caliber rifle.
Good strategy.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 2:42 pm to bbvdd
Me too. Mine was a break-over, single shot .410ga.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 6:31 pm to PapaPogey
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I'd still recommend, starting with a BB gun ($50) just to teach them gun safety. Then a .410 ($150-200) to learn to handle the recoil, then a .22 to learn about rifles and how to shoot ($100-200), and then a high caliber rifle.
Nice...this sounds like the way to go. Can't wait to get him started.
Posted on 9/7/11 at 8:44 pm to SDTiger15
I will say that I haven't necessarily used this strategy with my 5 year old. The first gun he ever shot was a .22 pistol, next was my AR-15. He absolutely loves shooting it. I will hold the gun up and he put it to his shoulder and fires when he's ready. He can empty a 30 round mag in short order.
Posted on 9/8/11 at 12:19 am to bbvdd
I don't recommend the AR for a hunting rifle. Get you a good 30.06 for your use, then an AR to play.
Let them grow into it as said above.
My son has shot my 10.22, AR with and w/o the 22 conversion and it is too much. (too big or too heavy)
He has shot his BB gun, 410 and my p22 with success
Let them grow into it as said above.
My son has shot my 10.22, AR with and w/o the 22 conversion and it is too much. (too big or too heavy)
He has shot his BB gun, 410 and my p22 with success
Posted on 9/8/11 at 8:59 am to Big Data
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Mine was a break-over, single shot .410ga.
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