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re: Another snake ID
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:54 am to NOLAGT
Posted on 5/24/16 at 8:54 am to NOLAGT
I don't know - the dorsal blotches seem a bit too irregular and widely spaced for a Prairie King. We need a ventral shot of this thing. Might be a genetic morph of something.
Alx, Hog nose crossed my mind at first glance too.
One of the things that makes me think water snake is that the colors outside of the blotches are not uniform - the browns change and blend, and that tends to be more common in water snakes. And it was found around water.
Or this might be a photoshop just to stump the snake fiends on here.
Alx, Hog nose crossed my mind at first glance too.
One of the things that makes me think water snake is that the colors outside of the blotches are not uniform - the browns change and blend, and that tends to be more common in water snakes. And it was found around water.
Or this might be a photoshop just to stump the snake fiends on here.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 8:59 am
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Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:00 am to AlxTgr
Too long and thin for a hog.
I think it's just a weird photo. I bet it would be pretty obvious what it was, if we had another photo from a better angle.
I still think it's a young Nerodia species, but I won't say it's NOT a rat snake or prairie king. I don't think it is though.
I think it's just a weird photo. I bet it would be pretty obvious what it was, if we had another photo from a better angle.
I still think it's a young Nerodia species, but I won't say it's NOT a rat snake or prairie king. I don't think it is though.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:23 am to Teague
Like this?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:30 am to AlxTgr
Or a less dirty, recently shed version of this:
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:38 am to AlxTgr
The blotches in the OP are obviously more black, but note how the blotches or bands are outlined by a yellowish border. And especially, the triangular areas between the blotches and the blend of browns.
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:43 am to 911Moto
Hell, I don't know. The more I look at the photo, the less I know. Maybe it is just a rat snake from a weird angle. If I had to guess a snake that would be found in an engine compartment, that would be it.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:43 am to Teague
I still think it's too pretty for any water
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:46 am to Teague
The fact that it doesn't clearly jump out at us is what pushes me to water snake - what has more variations in color and pattern than water snakes? If it were anything else I think it would be more obvious. This one is driving me crazy.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:49 am to 911Moto
quote:Really? They all look the same to me, but I am mostly limited to the more drab species other than the odd pretty broad-banded.
what has more variations in color and pattern than water snakes?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:51 am to 911Moto
quote:
The fact that it doesn't clearly jump out at us is what pushes me to water snake - what has more variations in color and pattern than water snakes? If it were anything else I think it would be more obvious. This one is driving me crazy.
I just realized it was a BOAT engine cover. I'm leaning heavily back toward Nerodia again.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:55 am to Teague
I think I'm going to post this on a FB snake ID page. It's made up of herpetologists and REAL experts, unlike most FB nonsense.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 9:56 am to AlxTgr
I present this Northern as evidence that water snakes can cross over to the "pretty" side.
I agree that most of our southern water species tend to be drab and fairly consistent, but after looking at google images of Northerns and Midlands, it's almost hard to find two that look alike. Quite a bit of variation.
I agree that most of our southern water species tend to be drab and fairly consistent, but after looking at google images of Northerns and Midlands, it's almost hard to find two that look alike. Quite a bit of variation.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:32 am to 911Moto
That one does have a nice pattern to it.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:53 am to NOLAGT
The consensus so far from the FB ID page is juvenile Plain-bellied Water Snake (Nerodia erythrogaster).
Posted on 5/24/16 at 10:57 am to Teague
That doesn't work for me at all.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 11:55 am to AlxTgr
Well, now more people are chiming in. It's basically the same three guesses we had - nerodia, rat, and mole. I feel better. It's stumping the experts too.
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:04 pm to Teague
Maybe its a hybrid...got a little tipsy one night and cross pollinated
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:18 pm to Teague
Mole?
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:21 pm to AlxTgr
Mole (prairie) kingsnake Lampropeltis calligaster.
I still like this answer the best I think
From google img
I still like this answer the best I think
From google img
This post was edited on 5/24/16 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 5/24/16 at 1:40 pm to AlxTgr
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Mole?
Mole king, or prairie king. Someone mentioned one or the other. They look very similar and it's really just a geographical division.
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