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re: Another Snake ID

Posted on 5/8/14 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
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Posted on 5/8/14 at 9:00 pm to
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/8/14 at 10:03 pm to
Was that today? If it was, watch your dog closely. Seems like it would be hard to rip up a Cottonmouth without it getting at least a nip in.
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted by islandtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
1787 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:07 pm to
That is how to raise your kids!
Posted by GrizzlePickle
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2011
1791 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:20 pm to
How about this one. Found it while walking my dog last night. Didn't kill it, no reason to.



Posted by Soul Gleaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 5/8/14 at 11:23 pm to
Rat snake. Pretty crazy we actually have 2 venomous snakes on the board for a change
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 11:25 pm
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 8:56 am to
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better hope your dog wasnt bitten

I've got a rat terrier that has killed probably 10 water mocs & copperheads, along with a jillion nom-venomous snakes, & she's never been bitten. It's not something I taught her to do or encourage, the non venomous ones I don't worry about but it is her instinct to hunt & kill things. If I see her going after a poisonous snake, I usually try to intervene with a shovel but most times she's shaken/popped the thing to death by the time I get to it. Snake venom isn't nearly as bad on animals as it is humans, we've had dogs, cats, horses, & cows bitten by snakes & it may swell a little but that's all. Now I have seen some dogs take a nasty bite, probably numerous bites, & suffer pretty bad. Friend of mine had a dog get bit in the face, dog's face swelled up & she ended up having some of the skin basically rot off. She looked funny but still was a great cow dog & never quit going after snakes.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 8:58 am
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:02 am to
I watched my Jack Russell kill a black racer, and it was impressive to watch. Black racers are lightning quick and very aggressive. I lifted my grill cover that was on the ground and the snake took off. Before I could get "NO!" Out of my mouth, he had the snake in his mouth and was thrashing it around like a rag doll. It was over before the snake knew what hit him. I would think a lot of dog breeds would take the curiosity angle though and toy with the snake.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 11:03 am
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:09 am to
The terrier breeds are supreme assassins when it comes to vermin. Mine has taken down field rabbits, squirrels, opossums, cats, & snakes. When she zeros in on something she "thinks" needs killin', the deed is done before the poor critter can even react. Only thing that she didn't immediately destroy was a skunk. It was crossing the little pasture & she took off after it but once she got close enough to the skunk, she backed off. By the time I got to her, I could smell her from 25 yards out.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:24 am to
My Jack Russell used to dig little holes all over the yard, which I thought were random, then one day he started leaving moles on my back porch. Those are the coolest dogs, but I never could train any of mine.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29273 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:27 am to
quote:

Those are the coolest dogs, but I never could train any of mine.


I don't think anyone can train them.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13436 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:49 pm to
quote:

Rat snake.


Those are AWESOME- and are the friend of anyone who owns a camp that's prone to mice.

Definitely a good snake to have around.
Posted by tigerfootball10
Member since Sep 2005
9493 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Black racers are lightning quick and very aggressive.

So when you say aggressive you mean aggressive to run away from you?

Cause this doesn't match that?

quote:

Are you kidding me? I've made a hobby out of catching snakes my whole life, with the majority of them being racers (just because they are more common). They don't back down??? Those things are hard to get close to even when you're trying. They are very fast and the first thing they want to do is get away from you.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:32 pm to
Could be that they bite aggressively once captured. I have never caught one. Saw one earlier this year, but it was too quick for me to follow through the thicket.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6842 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:38 pm to
I caught a racer this year during turkey season. Chased them for miles as a kid with no success. Sat down and saw him under a bush 3 ft away. He was about to shed, and his eyes were totaly glazed over, couldn't see. I eased over and grabbed him, put him in my pocket, and yelped softly 2x and scratched the ground at a gobbler that was right down below me in a bottom. Heard him strutting as he came up the hill. When I shot the turkey, the snake bolted out of my pocket and didn't stop for at least 50 ft. I didn't try to catch him again, figured I scared him enough. First one I've ever caught, and didn't even get a picture.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
THE Death Valley
Member since Nov 2007
4057 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

but i never could train any of mine

JR's are pretty stubborn, that's why I go with the rat terrier. You get all the great terrier qualities but they are easier to train, still hard headed but if started early, they settle in to make some mighty fine dogs. Mine loves the water, the boat, hiking, & canoeing, & just about every other activity/adventure we've introduced her to.
Posted by tysonslefthook
Near Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2014
1218 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:30 pm to
My boxer grabbed the tail of a skunk once. Took a full spray right on the tongue. I thought he was going to tear his tongue out. I felt sorry for him, but I still laughed hysterically at him for about an hour. I didn't know what to do other than let him drink water.
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

So when you say aggressive you mean aggressive to run away from you?


Agressive when caught or cornered. The second they know you're there, they will flee like 95% of snake breeds. And they are very quick (hence the name), so they are a bitch to catch. But once you've got one cornered, or try to grab him, he'll be striking like a mofo. And once caught, they never calm down. The majority of king snakes, rat snakes, etc. can be easily handled once they are caught, though some have a nasty temperament. I've come across one racer in my life that could be handled without biting.
While a few venomous snakes, especially Cottonmouths, will hold their ground when confronted, the vast majority want to get away from you as quickly as possible.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81604 posts
Posted on 5/9/14 at 2:36 pm to
I used to wrap an arm with fabric and let aggressive ones bite until they just got tired of it. Sometimes, that worked for a long time. With others, it had to be done almost every time I handled them. Diamond backed water snakes were terrible.
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