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American Virgin Islands governor orders NG to confiscate all guns and ammo
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:49 pm
How the hell is this allowed to happen in the United States?
quote:
The governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands has ordered its national guard to seize guns, ammunition and other weapons from its citizens as the territory prepares for Hurricane Irma to make landfall.
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Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:54 pm to bbvdd
Calm the frick down. You have to handle things differently on a small island with limited resources.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:56 pm to Saskwatch
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Calm the frick down. You have to handle things differently on a small island with limited resources.
Why are people so willing to give up freedom for perceived safety?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:57 pm to bbvdd
Yeah this reads to be more of them seizing them as needed to properly equip the national guard, not as measure trying to disarm the citizens.
Still slightly scary none the less. I saw the NRA is threatening to sue.
Still slightly scary none the less. I saw the NRA is threatening to sue.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 3:59 pm to bbvdd
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The governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands has ordered its national guard to seize guns, ammunition and other weapons from its citizens as the territory prepares for Hurricane Irma to make landfall.
That's not what that order says
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:02 pm to Tactical Insertion
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That's not what that order says
Can you not read???? That's exactly what it says.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:02 pm to bbvdd
No it doesn't
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:06 pm to Tactical Insertion
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The Adjutant General is authorized and directed to seize arms, ammunition, explosives, incendiary material and any other property that may be required by the military forces for the performance of this emergency mission...
Yes it does
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:10 pm to bbvdd
Good, I'm glad you found the part that is in reference to your original quote.
Now tell me how this:
means this:
Or this:
Now tell me how this:
quote:
The Adjutant General is authorized and directed to seize arms, ammunition, explosives, incendiary material and any other property that may be required by the military forces for the performance of this emergency mission...
means this:
quote:
American Virgin Islands governor orders NG to confiscate all guns and ammo
Or this:
quote:
The governor of the U.S. Virgin Islands has ordered its national guard to seize guns, ammunition and other weapons from its citizens as the territory prepares for Hurricane Irma to make landfall.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:40 pm to dfintlyHmmrd
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Yeah this reads to be more of them seizing them as needed to properly equip the national guard, not as measure trying to disarm the citizens.
That's how I read it as well. It's very ambiguous in it's wording.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:53 pm to upgrayedd
Yeah it could have been worded a lot better for sure.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 4:55 pm to dfintlyHmmrd
Much like other shite like this, they leave it ambiguous on purpose.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:04 pm to upgrayedd
It is ambiguous. It leaves the door open to take the guns.
It's a scary proposal to say the least and should be if it isn't illegal.
It's a scary proposal to say the least and should be if it isn't illegal.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:10 pm to bbvdd
I suppose, but it appears as if they're trying to say they have the right to seize resources to help them combat hurricane related issues. I can see how some would be skeptical, though.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:13 pm to Saskwatch
quote:What, keep folks from protecting themselves? Bull shite - I suggest you remove your head from your arse, bro.
Calm the frick down. You have to handle things differently on a small island with limited resources.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 5:17 pm to bbvdd
What is the NG gonna do, shoot the hurricane?
Are they trying to say the NG needs to confiscate private arms for their selves? Why are they not already armed?
Are they trying to say the NG needs to confiscate private arms for their selves? Why are they not already armed?
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:25 pm to upgrade
It's means that they have the authority to do whatever in the hell that they need to do during this "emergency mission" (rescue people one of the damn scariest hurricanes known to man). It literally says that in the order.
You know what's scary? 185 mph sustained winds. I don't think the USVI NG is going to looking for guns as much as bodies.
You know what's scary? 185 mph sustained winds. I don't think the USVI NG is going to looking for guns as much as bodies.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:36 pm to Tactical Insertion
There was a federal passed after what chocolate city mayor did after Katrina to prevent this. VI governor using the excuse to arm the national guard to circumvent the law.
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:41 pm to Tactical Insertion
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I don't think the USVI NG is going to looking for guns as much as bodies.
You don't know what they'll do and that's the whole problem here. Its carte blanche to basically do whatever the hell they want to in order to save people.
I'm sorry, but the government should not have the ability to go out and confiscate citizens weapons.
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 9/6/17 at 6:46 pm to upgrade
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What is the NG gonna do, shoot the hurricane?
Or perhaps shoot looters or others using the hurricane or aftermath as an opportunity for crime. Not saying I like the order or think it is necessarily a good idea
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Are they trying to say the NG needs to confiscate private arms for their selves? Why are they not already armed?
It does seems to indicate that the guard there is not well equipped or at least not well maintained.
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