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19 elk killed by wolves in Wyoming in "rare event"
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:07 am
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:07 am
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JACKSON, Wyo. - The Wyoming Game and Fish Department (WGFD) has confirmed that 19 elk were killed by wolves at a feedground near Bondurant. "Yesterday morning, we discovered several elk killed by wolves near one of our feedgrounds near Bondurant. We went and investigated it and it turned out to be a total of 19 that we found and documented. There were 19 total -- 17 were calves, two were adult cows," said WGFD Regional Wildlife Supervisor John Lund.
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"This is a rare event. A lot of people call it surplus killing," said Lund. "It has been observed on other occasions, just not very often. This was one of those events. Several wolves came in over one night and killed 19 elk. Normally one or two elk a night here and there is no big deal, but 19 in one night is fairly rare."
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"By and large, wolves don't kill for sport," said Jimenez. "We did an eight year study and we looked at elk feedgrounds. What we found is that generally wolves did not kill what they did not eat."
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I've heard of sport killing by wolves but I still find it weird a wild predator would kill something and not eat it. Would've thought as soon as the first elk was down it would be meal time and that's that.
I wonder if this is actually a rare event or are the FnG people are downplaying the act for the sake of wolf reintroduction. I'm generally for reintroduction btw. Hearing a lone wolf howl while camping is on my bucket list.
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 7:02 am to Chuker
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Hearing a lone wolf howl while camping is on my bucket list.
Problem is, wolves have lost their fear of people - or at least enough of it to make them a risk, especially if you get more than 3 or 4 of them. Heck, even coyotes are getting chippy with people lately. I'm not scared of 2 or 3 coyotes, but 1 wolf is more than enough for me.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:25 am to Chuker
Probably young males. Just like humans, young alphas will do crazy stuff.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:40 am to AUCE05
We're the wolves wearing sideways flat bill caps or hoodies and their coats sagged on their rumps? Hmmmmmmmm!
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:46 am to Chuker
I'm curious what they mean by "feed grounds". If the game and fish is supplemental feeding elk during winter then there is the problem.
This post was edited on 3/25/16 at 9:17 am
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:53 am to Chuker
The Purge in real life.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:29 am to rattlebucket
Some liberal somewhere is cooking up sweeping, freedom robbing legislation to try and stop this from ever happening again.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:31 am to rattlebucket
Pretty sure the Fish and Game there does a pretty good job of staying "moderate" and neutral when it comes to wolves, they are a huge political battle right now so they try to just report and do their job.
The elk come down into the valley's off the mountains in the winter, there is a huge area right out side of the town of Jackson that the state feeds them. A lot of the Bull's drop their antlers there and the boy scouts have sole rights to pick them up. They make crazy money off of selling them to chandelier makers and what not. That is where they got all the antlers for those arches down town I believe.
I believe issues like this are usually, as said above, young males seeking out new territory. We are talking about 80-200lb wild dogs here I don't know why anyone would be remotely suprised that they do this. Wolves are dangerous as heck when they are in packs.
The elk come down into the valley's off the mountains in the winter, there is a huge area right out side of the town of Jackson that the state feeds them. A lot of the Bull's drop their antlers there and the boy scouts have sole rights to pick them up. They make crazy money off of selling them to chandelier makers and what not. That is where they got all the antlers for those arches down town I believe.
I believe issues like this are usually, as said above, young males seeking out new territory. We are talking about 80-200lb wild dogs here I don't know why anyone would be remotely suprised that they do this. Wolves are dangerous as heck when they are in packs.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 9:39 am to Manchac Man
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what they mean by "feed grounds". If the game and fish is supplemental feeding elk during winter then there is the problem.
There is a big elk refuge just outside of Jackson. Not sure if this is the feeding ground they are talking about or not.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:14 pm to Nodust
Should not be feeding the elk why would a large herd of calves about 9 10 months old not disperse? It would take a lot of wolves to take that many down.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:43 pm to Phideaux
They feed them like cows with hay when I saw it. Of course this was over 20 years ago when I liked in Wyoming. But I was through that area a few years ago and the elk refuge or whatever it is is still there.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 3:53 pm to Chuker
I've seen them twice in Yellowstone. They're big. I would not want to accidentally run up on one.
I think they will end up overpopulating and become a problem.
I think they will end up overpopulating and become a problem.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 7:47 pm to LSUwag
frick wolves. Kill them all. I will look at a picture in a dictionary if I am curious.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 10:33 pm to Chuker
Very strange. Wolves usually take out the weak, I've never seen a case of mass "sport" killing.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 7:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
the article stated that they believe its a certain pack and the pack contains about 9 wolves.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 8:34 am to Gorilla Ball
One carcass-furidan/problem solved.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:05 am to 10MTNTiger
They need to call Tristan Ludlow
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:32 am to dwr353
That's not the answer glad you aren't employed to manage wildlife. Why people have negative attitudes towards wolves and snakes is beyond me. Wyoming is contributing by feeding just to collect game hunt fees no doubt. Our herd in Smokies are not fed and the black bears will get a good 5 or 6 calves if acorns don't drop like last season. Any apex predator will kill elk not just wolves
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:49 am to Cracker
The problem is, people who are paid to manage wildlife are not permitted to do their jobs. Wolves are protected like they are bramahs in India. The enviromental wacos will not let the states manage animals in their state. The result is an apex predator is decimating wild game herds to the point that big game permits will have to be reduced in some areas. The result will be a reduction of revenue to the various game agencies, further reducing their efforts. I would like to let you explain to my rancher friends in Wyoming how you know better. Perhaps you would like to step up and reimburse them for livestock losses. Oh and by the way, frick poisonus snakes.
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