re: Young people (under 50) who refer to themselves as "old"

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It's a state of mind. The physical is under the control of the mental. People let society condition them on what to think and believe. I tend to ignore the ramblings of society and conventional wisdom because the majority seem like mind numbed morons to me. Just repeat and believe what the next guy says.

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I also think society places such a heavy emphasis on age and experience that young people feel as if they need to get old real quick so that people will respect them for their opinions on matters, so you get a lot of this. The irony of this is that the older you get the less you care if you're respected for your opinions, or what others think about your opinions to state them anyway.

Truth is, that's old guys fueling that, because they're old. Don't ever discount the actual importance of youth and inexperience. It's important, for if not for youth and inexperience, how else would we live and go through the actual process of learning and living an actual life through those experiences? The only thing ugly about youth and inexperience is arrogance. Other than that, it's what old guys look back on and secretly long for, the good old days. There's a little jealousy mixed in there too, so live it the Frick up while you can. Plenty of time to be and get old.

If you live to be 100, 30 isn't old. If you die at 35, then 30 is pretty old. It's all relative, and 30 is officially old. How are your knees holding up grandpa?

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Some people want to get old, and so they do, in the head.

I refuse to accept that personally. They can have it. I'm not dead.

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Fricking this. I still run hard everyday. I'm never going to "lay down". Someone is going to find me dead one day face down in the dirt and the grit at work somewhere out in the shop or yard. That's how I want to go out....still running hard.
As soon as you stop going hard everyday you "get old" real fast. frick that.

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Fricking this. I still run hard everyday. I'm never going to "lay down". Someone is going to find me dead one day face down in the dirt and the grit at work somewhere out in the shop or yard. That's how I want to go out....still running hard. As soon as you stop going hard everyday you "get old" real fast. frick that.

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A lot of truth to that I think. You always hear of the guy who retires, dying shortly thereafter retirement. I don't think it's necessarily the retirement that killed him, but often times I do think there's a case to be made that they lost their purpose. You HAVE to have purpose in life, even if it's just working in the wood shop in the back yard making chess sets or some other obscure hobby or thing to give you a sense of life and purpose for living.

But as far as getting old, it really is a state of mind we accept or determine in our mind that we will keep ourselves open as much as possible to new things, and new adventures or goals. Screw getting old. It's for the birds.

30 isn't close to old. I'd say most males peak around 35 so.

yeah once you hit 35 you're "old" and you're in serious decline. your body really gets fricked up over the next 10 years or so

"old" doesn't have to be an equal distribution of time in a lifetime. humans have a very short period of youth and peak. then the wheels fall off

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once you hit 35 you're "old" and you're in serious decline. your body really gets fricked up over the next 10 years or so

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Not everyone. I'm almost 49 and still feel and look young.

well there are obviously outliers, but there are biological rules. your body will produce a lot less testosterone, for example

*ETA: it's not just physical, either. sexual desire drops dramatically (right as females increases dramatically)

61 here and. I ain't old!

i think that's more like 32, but you're right

28-32 is the typical range for peak physical ability. i'm sure some outliers have that moved to like 31-35

there is a sharp decline after that, though, just as there is a sharp incline in the years following puberty