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re: Young kids and braces- what's the deal?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:04 am to Grouper Picatta
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:04 am to Grouper Picatta
What?
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Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:20 am to ruzil
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I would argue that pretty much everything we do in dentistry, with the exception of treating pain and swelling that could be life threatening, is elective. The dentists presents the proposed treatment and rationale for doing said treatment, the patient or parent decides and a transaction is or is not made.
Right. My kids all have some jacked up teeth(oddly enough neither parent needed braces). This new trend of going with braces earlier seems to be catching problems earlier to avoid major procedures later. The idea of the money racket IMO is twofold: does your kid actually have jacked up teeth or is Dr pushing it.
And will it cost twice as much if kid needs braces later or additional procedures?
In my case, the orthodontist puts braces on for a fee and that includes follow-up treatments for years, not unlimited of course but it covers later treatments. So, getting arse-raped for braces at 8 yrs old and again at 13 is not what is SUPPOSED to be happening.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 9:21 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:23 am to LSUTANGERINE
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Kids seem to be getting braces at much younger ages these days.
My 8 year old has jacked up teeth. His teeth are coming in way faster than his mouth is growing. Ped. Ortho recommends spacers to make room; however, my gut is that all this crap can wait until they are pubescent and you know what you're working with at that point. I think even if you do early ortho work, the kids still gonna need braces in the teenage years, so what's the point? But what the hell do I know?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:23 am to LSUTANGERINE
It comes in waves, in my experience. When I was a kid, in the 1970s, braces seemed to be more common at middle school, and slightly more common among girls. By the time we got to high school, in the 1980s, there were fewer with braces, overall, but slightly more boys. After I got out of school, in the late 1980s and early 1990s, I noticed kids getting braces in elementary school - but that was because I had kids in elementary school in the 90s.
Honestly, if a kid gets regular dental care from a young age, caries and decay are less of a problem and structurual/cosmetic problems will get more attention and focus over time. This is a good thing.
Honestly, if a kid gets regular dental care from a young age, caries and decay are less of a problem and structurual/cosmetic problems will get more attention and focus over time. This is a good thing.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:24 am to Putty
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I think even if you do early ortho work, the kids still gonna need braces in the teenage years, so what's the point? But what the hell do I know?
That's what I was getting at. My son got that done monthe before the braces. It was supposed to make braces more tolerable/shorter period/etc. The point I was making is they don't seem to be making more money off the parents in this phase-method if you will.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:25 am to LSUTANGERINE
Sorry your teeth are jacked up.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:32 am to mikelbr
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The point I was making is they don't seem to be making more money off the parents in this phase-method if you will.
I agree. My ped. ortho is very cost conscious, and has recommended many measures that are at absolutely no cost (i.e., using a tongue depressor, adding a little glue to correct a bite, etc.). She has been working on our case for 2+ years without doing any work yet (i.e., she's made nothing but a few bucks for visits/progress checks, etc.). The procedure she is recommending will cost us only a few hundred bucks (honestly, I don't know what dental ins. will be paying). So I don't in any way mean to suggest that she is recommending work just for a payday.
This post was edited on 6/30/15 at 9:34 am
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:38 am to Putty
My 17 yo loses her braces this month. There was a bit of discussion back and forth if she needed or not.....money well spent, and wish I had done it earlier.
I had braces and I needed them, my bite is better, my teeth, while not perfectly straight are about 75% better than when I got braces.
I suppose I am 2 for 2 in braces being a positive
Back to the point of the OP, yes I have noticed some kids that seem really young in braces...I always thought you had to be rid of your baby teeth
I had braces and I needed them, my bite is better, my teeth, while not perfectly straight are about 75% better than when I got braces.
I suppose I am 2 for 2 in braces being a positive
Back to the point of the OP, yes I have noticed some kids that seem really young in braces...I always thought you had to be rid of your baby teeth
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:43 am to tigerfoot
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I always thought you had to be rid of your baby teeth
I have a really hard time understanding why kids with mild issues are put in braces while they still have baby teeth.
Sure, there's some serious issues where action may be needed, but you never know how the adult teeth and growth will change things.
I know several people who had "jacked up" teeth at 10-11, and have beautiful teeth today as adults.
I was under the assumption that braces are a one-time benefit, too. Wouldn't you wait in that case?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 9:47 am to ruzil
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Parents aren't getting bilked out of money getting braces for their children any more than they are getting bilked out of money from Disney vacations and Ford King Ranches.
So, yes.
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:16 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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So, yes.
I yield to your superior knowledge.
BTW, where did you go to dental school?
Posted on 6/30/15 at 7:28 pm to Putty
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My 8 year old has jacked up teeth. His teeth are coming in way faster than his mouth is growing. Ped. Ortho recommends spacers to make room; however, my gut is that all this crap can wait until they are pubescent and you know what you're working with at that point.
Ortho is doing a tooth size arch length analysis and made a recommendation that may improve/expedite final result. Some interceptive treatment can help guide facial growth and turn a case that would need braces and surgery into a case that only needs braces.
Teeth also move more easily in growing children and that is also a consideration.
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I think even if you do early ortho work, the kids still gonna need braces in the teenage years
Maybe yes, maybe no. Many times early braces are used to clear the way for erupting teeth so that they do not get impacted into the jaws. Upper canine teeth are very notable in this regard since they erupt much later in the sequence and can be crowded out by incisors and premolars. Uncovering a couple of impacted canines under sedation at the Oral surgeon is not inexpensive. You can pay him now or pay him later.
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But what the hell do I know?
About orthodontics and dentistry, probably not much so let the specialist guide you. If you don't like what they have to say, get a second or third opinion and let that help you decide.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:57 am to ruzil
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ruzil
(guy who has to install a ton of braces to pay for the gas to get his King Ranch to Disney World)
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:03 am to LSUTANGERINE
My son is 16 and have them. Doing while they are young is good if you have the money to do it.
I've seen some that have put braces on kids that still have their baby teeth which makes no sense and is a waste of money.
I've seen some that have put braces on kids that still have their baby teeth which makes no sense and is a waste of money.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 8:03 pm to Cold Cous Cous
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ruzil
(guy who has to install a ton of braces to pay for the gas to get his King Ranch to Disney World)
Your sauce is weak, Sir.
Nice try though, not an orthodontist, don't have a King Ranch and hates everything about Disney.
Looks like you're way below the Mendoza line on your batting average.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:02 pm to Jet12
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Then they spent 2 years past my original removal date (after 2 years already) trying to decide whether I had an underbite or an overbite. I was always careful with my rubber bands and everything, yet they NEVER gave me a clear answer as to when my braces would be off.
They don't make any extra money whether they come off, or stay on, so chances are you needed them.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 9:22 pm to tigerfoot
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I always thought you had to be rid of your baby teeth
I'm pretty sure you do.
My kid is 18 months old and I already kmow we will getting braces at a young age and probably more, but my kid was born with a cleft lip and palette.
We went to the dentist for the first time this week. Missing one of his adult incisors and his jaw in the back is already not aligned.
We are due for a lot of work, but most passers-bys wouldn't now all this junk in his mouth is b/c he was born with a cleft lip/palette.
Hopefully insurance covers a good bit b/c it's caused by a birth defect.
Posted on 7/1/15 at 10:30 pm to Ace Midnight
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By the time we got to high school, in the 1980s, there were fewer with braces, overall, but slightly more boys.
My buddy is an orthodontist, he started practicing in 1980 and struggled for most of the 80s decade, the economy was so bad that many parents would only pay for braces if it was a really serious issue.
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