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re: Would you support criminalizing homelessness?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:41 am to Breesus
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:41 am to Breesus
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How does the use of heroin infringe upon others rights?
if someone wants to do heroine on their property and can do it without harming or affecting others or others property
yeah...they should be able to do it
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:41 am to Breesus
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It would take a whole hell of alot for me to be homeless. My entire family and every one of my friends would also have to be homeless and i would have to be unable to find a job anywhere doing anything.
Yea. Because every single person had a white middle to upper middle class upbringing which focused on education.
Not trying to make excuses for bums here but get some perspective man. Not everyone was afforded the same opportunities as you.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:42 am to Breesus
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I'd rather them be in a contained place with a roof over their heads and a meal 3 times a day
who is paying for this?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:43 am to Darth_Vader
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The wrong thing happens that causes you to have a mental breakdown
My mind is too strong, but we can go from here.
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the next thing you know you're sleeping under an overpass.
I dont see how you leap immediately to there. I can live in a mental hospital, a in care home, a family's house... etc...
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when you see a homeless person, don't suppose to judge them or how they got to where they are
I never do.
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Instead be grateful it's not you sitting there.
I am not grateful that i have more, for having more is fleeting. But i also do not pity those who have less for their less is equally fleeting.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:43 am to Breesus
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:44 am to PhiTiger1764
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Because every single person had a white middle to upper middle class upbringing which focused on education.
What are you babbling about?
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Not trying to make excuses for bums here but get some perspective man. Not everyone was afforded the same opportunities as you.
I know that. He said it wouldnt take much for me personally to become homeless. I refuted his point.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:44 am to PhiTiger1764
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Pros: none
Cons: taxes
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:45 am to Salmon
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if someone wants to do heroine on their property and can do it without harming or affecting others or others property
yeah...they should be able to do it
Let's continue.
Should heroin be sold in grocery stores like cigarettes?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:45 am to Pettifogger
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You say this, but you know the answer.
It's because you're harassed by able-bodied men who smell of booze and who intimidate people into giving them money. There are people who are truly in a low place, but there are a lot that make it hard to sympathize with the group overall.
Not many of us have the ability to stop and assess the genuineness of someone's need (but note, we're much better at it than the government).
Not everyone that's homeless is what you described. Many are people who suffer from mental issues and have no place to go because there's no more room for them at the inn so to speak, being kicked out of hospitals because there's no more room for them. Even still, a person who has made some bad choices in life and gotten them to the point of addiction and homelessness does not give me the right to pass them off as sub human, but in need of our compassion. Given the right set of circumstances, I hate to tell you, but every one of us could have easily found ourselves in similar states as they find themselves in. Not everyone goes through the same shite in life, has the same support system or mental abilities. Recognizing that is the first step to not only being very grateful for what you do have, but finding compassion for those not as blessed as you have been.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:46 am to Sevendust912
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who is paying for this?
A privatized system dedicated to helping the homeless?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:46 am to PhiTiger1764
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ETA: ahh I now see your edit
Yeah, I hit "enter" too early... makes all the difference in the world.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:48 am to Mike da Tigah
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Not everyone that's homeless is what you described. Many are people who suffer from mental issues and have no place to go because there's no more room for them at the inn so to speak, being kicked out of hospitals because there's no more room for them. Even still, a person who has made some bad choices in life and gotten them to the point of addiction and homelessness does not give me the right to pass them off as sub human, but in need of our compassion. Given the right set of circumstances, I hate to tell you, but every one of us could have easily found ourselves in similar states as they find themselves in. Not everyone goes through the same shite in life, has the same support system or mental abilities. Recognizing that is the first step to not only being very grateful for what you do have, but finding compassion for those not as blessed as you have been.
So wouldnt you be for a process by which every homeless person gets a roof over their head, a bed, 3 meals a day, exercise, and a possibility toward a better life?
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 8:48 am
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:49 am to Breesus
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My mind is too strong, but we can go from here.
Your mind can totally shatter in a matter of moments.
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I dont see how you leap immediately to there. I can live in a mental hospital, a in care home, a family's house... etc...
You sound like you have no concept of what mental illness is or how it affects people.
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I never do.
I'd say wanting to throw the homeless in jail is the definition of passing judgement on them.
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I am not grateful that i have more, for having more is fleeting. But i also do not pity those who have less for their less is equally fleeting.
How do you suppose to know what their situation is to the point you'd describe it as "fleeting"?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:50 am to Breesus
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Should heroin be sold in grocery stores like cigarettes?
sure
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:52 am to Salmon
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Should heroin be sold in grocery stores
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sure
I'll preface this by saying I consider myself a libertarian who loves his freedom.
You're fricking stupid.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:52 am to Breesus
Can't say I'm against them.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:52 am to Darth_Vader
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You sound like you have no concept of what mental illness is or how it affects people.
I have much more than you know. Both with close family members and volunteer work.
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I'd say wanting to throw the homeless in jail is the definition of passing judgement on them.
I never said i wanted to throw them in jail. I asked if people would support such a bill. No need to project your thoughts onto me.
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How do you suppose to know what their situation is to the point you'd describe it as "fleeting"?
Life itself on this planet is fleeting. If we are to accept your hypothesis that any person can snap and be homeless in an instant without much of a push then can we not accept the opposite hypotheses, that some homeless people may be able to turn their situation around?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:53 am to Breesus
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i assume you are for the decriminalization of all drugs? People banging heroin dont infringe anyone else's rights, so it should never be illegal right?
No, someone shooting up heroin does not infringe on any of my rights. If they do infringe on someone's right, such as robbing, etc. then throw them in jail for that.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:53 am to Salmon
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Should heroin be sold in grocery stores like cigarettes?
sure
I think we'd get along well
Posted on 6/17/14 at 8:54 am to Breesus
Um....... No
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