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Would moving from a clean bulk to a dirty bulk be a good move?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:28 pm
Been working on making them #gainz for a while now, and really not seeing much in the way of results, and it's starting to get a little frustrating.
I've been eating clean with the exception of cheats every now and then, using IIFYM, and am currently consuming about 3,000 calories a day, but I haven't really gained any weight. Only two pounds in the last 5 months.
Would moving from a clean bulk to a dirty bulk be the right move? Obviously it would make it easier to gain weight but that's not exactly the weight I'm hoping for. And losing the additional fat after would suck.
I've been eating clean with the exception of cheats every now and then, using IIFYM, and am currently consuming about 3,000 calories a day, but I haven't really gained any weight. Only two pounds in the last 5 months.
Would moving from a clean bulk to a dirty bulk be the right move? Obviously it would make it easier to gain weight but that's not exactly the weight I'm hoping for. And losing the additional fat after would suck.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 3:30 pm
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:30 pm to AbitaFan08
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consuming about 3,000 calories a day, but I haven't really gained any weight. Only two pounds in the last 5 months.
damn! I would have gained 10+ pounds with that amount every day for 5 months.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:32 pm to AbitaFan08
Have you tried doughnuts?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:32 pm to AbitaFan08
3,000 is likely too light for you. What's your height/weight?
To each his own, but most people I've trained with have a hard time solidifying gains on a "dirty" bulk. Once they lose the fat, they are essentially the same size.
Most don't have the patience for it, but a slow bulk will stick around much longer and be more sustainable. Not for the "just trying to bulk up for the beach" crowd.
To each his own, but most people I've trained with have a hard time solidifying gains on a "dirty" bulk. Once they lose the fat, they are essentially the same size.
Most don't have the patience for it, but a slow bulk will stick around much longer and be more sustainable. Not for the "just trying to bulk up for the beach" crowd.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:33 pm to AbitaFan08
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I've been eating clean with the exception of cheats every now and then, using IIFYM, and am currently consuming about 3,000 calories a day, but I haven't really gained any weight. Only two pounds in the last 5 months.
Would moving from a clean bulk to a dirty bulk be the right move? Obviously it would make it easier to gain weight but that's not exactly the weight I'm hoping for. And losing the additional fat after would suck.
First off, IIFYM is technically a 'dirty bulk' because although your calorie intake is structured, the source of said calories presumably deviates from the list of healthier food options. The entire point of IIFYM is that it is a flexible form of dieting that allows for cheat meals and does not demand 100% dietary discipline.
If 3000 calories has been insufficient thus far as a means of achieving a caloric surplus, then simple math would dictate that you should merely increase your daily or weekly caloric intake rather than scrap your diet or meal strategy altogether.
If you are hoping to mitigate fat accumulation while gaining muscle, then the best option is to make small incremental increases in your caloric intake over an extended period of time while simultaneously abstaining from the consumption of junk food and empty calories.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:33 pm to AbitaFan08
If you are willing to pay ~$50, PowerathleteHQ has a great bulking protocol template that plans everything out for you.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:35 pm to LSUfan20005
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3,000 is likely too light for you. What's your height/weight?
5'11" and I'm currently at 158lbs.
I know that upping my caloric intake higher than 3,000 would help, but damned if it isn't hard to even hit those numbers when you're eating clean.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:35 pm to AbitaFan08
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Been working on making them #gainz for a while now, and really not seeing much in the way of results, and it's starting to get a little frustrating.
Are you failing to make any strength gains or just lacking muscular/body composition improvement?
A lack of strength gains is likely more attributed to poor programming or technique on your part rather than the dietary component of your fitness plan.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:36 pm to AbitaFan08
Skinny MOFO you are. How old are you?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:38 pm to saint amant steve
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Are you failing to make any strength gains or just lacking muscular/body composition improvement?
I've definitely gotten stronger. I've achieved tons of PRs over the last few months, which is great. Just not seeing it in terms of body composition improvement.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:38 pm to AbitaFan08
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I know that upping my caloric intake higher than 3,000 would help, but damned if it isn't hard to even hit those numbers when you're eating clean.
It's as hard as you are willing to make it.
What does your macro split currently look like?
While bulking, the majority of your calories should mostly come from carbs in order to fuel your additional volume and workload.
Adding more carbs to your diet is not that difficult. Be sure to introduce yourself to brown rice and oats. They will easily fill your macro requirements.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:39 pm to AbitaFan08
Try eating this everyday
Although this is what happens when you dirty bulk...
Although this is what happens when you dirty bulk...
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:40 pm to AbitaFan08
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I've definitely gotten stronger. I've achieved tons of PRs over the last few months, which is great. Just not seeing it in terms of body composition improvement.
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I've definitely gotten stronger. I've achieved tons of PRs over the last few months, which is great. Just not seeing it in terms of body composition improvement.
Then that all but confirms that you need to increase your calories in order to increase your mass.
Are you not gaining any weight or are you just not noticing any increase in muscular size?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:40 pm to saint amant steve
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What does your macro split currently look like?
Carbs: 320g
Proteins: 159g
Fats: 121g
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:41 pm to AbitaFan08
2lbs in that timeframe is good. I've done dirty bulk before and they are not worth it. You would have to go on a diet for a long time to keep from burning that muscle you gained.
Just up your calories. It will take a long time to gain a lot of muscle correctly.
Just up your calories. It will take a long time to gain a lot of muscle correctly.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:44 pm to AbitaFan08
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Carbs: 320g
Proteins: 159g
Fats: 121g
That's better than I expected. Good call on not consuming a ridiculous amount of protein (doing so only becomes expensive and laborious).
What does your post-workout meal look like? Do you consume a shake immediately after or just a full meal?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:49 pm to saint amant steve
I typically just make a smoothie with whey protein, spinach, frozen berries, banana, peanut butter, and flax seeds.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:50 pm to AbitaFan08
You got to eat like a horse to make gainz. And lift heavy. And sleep.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:52 pm to AbitaFan08
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I typically just make a smoothie with whey protein, spinach, frozen berries, banana, peanut butter, and flax seeds.
Blend in some oats with your smoothie (I would start with about 1/2 cup and then gradually increase if you are still failing to gain any weight).
Posted on 2/24/16 at 3:53 pm to AbitaFan08
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consuming about 3,000 calories a day, but I haven't really gained any weight. Only two pounds in the last 5 months.
frick you.
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