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Will MDs PEC someone if they're not a danger to themself/others?
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:19 pm
If signs of bipolarism or possible drug use are apparent and seem to be worsening, can MDs PEC an adult child for that or do they have to exhibit danger to themselves/others?
Trying to help family that seem to think that because their child is an adult and married that they can't do anything to really help said child. Talking hasn't helped and things have worsened; husband has almost had enough.
Aside from my telling them to haul the person to the ER SOMEHOW the next time an outburst happens, I didn't know what to say. Family is seriously, legitimately concerned but think that their hands are tied.
Trying to help family that seem to think that because their child is an adult and married that they can't do anything to really help said child. Talking hasn't helped and things have worsened; husband has almost had enough.
Aside from my telling them to haul the person to the ER SOMEHOW the next time an outburst happens, I didn't know what to say. Family is seriously, legitimately concerned but think that their hands are tied.
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Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:20 pm to tiger91
You really can't PEC unless they're a danger
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:21 pm to tiger91
Family can get the person committed if they can prove they are a danger to themselves or others. Court appointed psychiatrist will eval them.
Paige would be more knowledgable on this I'm guessing.
Paige would be more knowledgable on this I'm guessing.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:21 pm to GEAUXT
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You really can't PEC unless they're a danger
That's what I was afraid of. I have no first hand experience with this at all and am just now being told of this situation. What DO you do in situations like this?? Common sense on the part of the parent/husband is NOT working and not getting across.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:22 pm to tiger91
You have to wait until they hit rock bottom.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:23 pm to tiger91
Don't get involved in this. Just stay out of it.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:23 pm to Cosmo
As a parent of 3 kids myself, I can't imagine the parents of this person having to wait to that point. That's got to an
be awful situation.
be awful situation.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:24 pm to Walt OReilly
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Don't get involved in this. Just stay out of it.
While it's not my children, it is pretty much immediate family. And I'm not trying to be involved but just to offer "options" or information and thought that a trip to the ER might be one during the next outburst.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:27 pm to tiger91
Well if there is an "outburst" as you say it may be possible to keep them in for eval. However, there is a lot of mental health that comes in through the ER and I wouldn't recommend going that route unless there really is some imminent danger to the person or the family. It should be handled on an outpatient basis
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:28 pm to GEAUXT
Thanks. Can parents drag their adult child to an outpatient facility?
I haven't been told specifics other than the outbursts are becoming more frequent, lasting longer and that she's done/said things that would make my eyes pop out and that her husband is tired of being a punching bag (DO NOT KNOW if he's a literal punching bag or just verbally). Not sure I want to know the rest.
I haven't been told specifics other than the outbursts are becoming more frequent, lasting longer and that she's done/said things that would make my eyes pop out and that her husband is tired of being a punching bag (DO NOT KNOW if he's a literal punching bag or just verbally). Not sure I want to know the rest.
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:28 pm to tiger91
What do MDs have to do with the product engineering code?
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:28 pm to GEAUXT
Pec?
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:29 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
PEC .. Physician Emergency Certificate. Can "hold" a patient for I think 24 - 72 hours for evaluation under certain circumstances.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:30 pm to tiger91
As long as they are a functioning adult it is on them to willingly go
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:30 pm to tiger91
What kind of outbursts? Have they gotten to the level where people are afraid she will harm herself or her family?
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:31 pm to GEAUXT
Thanks. This is such a sucky situation.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:31 pm to Cosmo
Does it cost anything? I'd love to do this as a prank on my ex wife
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:32 pm to euquol
I've just been told that parents/grandparents/husband do not know what to do and that outbursts (no further information) are getting more frequent and lasting longer and that husband is tired of being a "punching bag" but I don't know (and didn't ask) if he's literally being punched or if he's just the primary recipient of the outbursts (her parents get a ton of it as well).
They're wondering if she's on drugs as opposed to a possible mental disorder.
They're wondering if she's on drugs as opposed to a possible mental disorder.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:33 pm to el Gaucho
im in.
Posted on 12/26/15 at 1:33 pm to tiger91
She sounds borderline.
I'd tell her husband to run for the hills.
And I mean this with all sincerity.
Tell the dude to run, and when he can't run anymore, walk, and when he can't walk....
I'd tell her husband to run for the hills.
And I mean this with all sincerity.
Tell the dude to run, and when he can't run anymore, walk, and when he can't walk....
This post was edited on 12/26/15 at 1:35 pm
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