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re: Why isn't basic economics a required HS course?
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:38 pm to fnchdrms87
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:38 pm to fnchdrms87
Required in Alabama for seniors. One semester Econ, one semester US Government.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:40 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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At a minimum, Econ & a Personal Money Mgmt (Dave Ramsey's) -- should be required.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:45 pm to Twenty 49
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Graduated in '95 from Zachary. Took economics/free enterprise. OP must've went to a trashy school.
Trashy? Fairfax County, VA is hardly trashy
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:02 pm to Supermoto Tiger
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At a minimum, Econ & a Personal Money Mgmt (Dave Ramsey's) -- should be required.
Econ and personal money management are completely separate topics.
And while Dave Ramsey does a decent job of trying to keep people from screwing themselves by ignoring the basics, it is enormously simplified and his methods could be improved upon.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:04 pm to fnchdrms87
They'd teach Keynesian garbage anyway, so it's irrelevant
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:07 pm to fnchdrms87
Check out Walter Williams, he's really good too!
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:07 pm to fnchdrms87
I went to an all-girls Catholic HS in NOLA. Why would a good Catholic girl need to know economics if she marries a good Catholic man soon enough and spits out kids?
They only recently got rid of mandatory home ec - cooking and table setting. (Now an elective)
They only recently got rid of mandatory home ec - cooking and table setting. (Now an elective)
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:16 pm to fnchdrms87
We had AP Econ but the course that I want to see taught is personal finance.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:27 pm to fnchdrms87
So you're complaining about your high school education in the OP and now you're trying to throw it in my face? Sorry for taking economics in HS and now being an OT baller making 200k+. I'm sure Fairfax, VA is proud.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:28 pm to fnchdrms87
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I just finished reading Thomas Sowell's "Basic Economics" and I found myself thinking the entire time "why the hell wasn't this taught to me in high school?"
I read that book about a decade ago and had the exact same reaction you did. In public schools, you're taught "what" to think, not "how" to think....just the way government likes it. I'm still pissed at the "economics" I was force-fed in school.
"Basic Economics" OBLITERATES common economic beliefs and teaches people "how" to think. So, there's no way in hell any institution run by government would have an incentive to get that kind of information out.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:29 pm to Jet12
quote:A variation on Home Ec (cooking, clothing care, simple car maintenance, budgeting, other life hacks) should be a HS requirement, just like Basic Econ, for all students male and female
They only recently got rid of mandatory home ec - cooking and table setting. (Now an elective)
It's been shown in practice that if you give it a name like "Independent Living Skills" many boys are willing to sign up for it
Posted on 7/9/14 at 10:37 pm to fnchdrms87
You cannot count on any school teaching your child economics.
I have a 9 year old and I am making a list of required reading that she will be expected to read, digest and discuss with me. Start with Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt. I have not read Sowell, but I know he is from the same branch as Hazlitt (if he does not reference Hazlitt, I would be shocked).
Hazlitt wrote his book in he 1940s. But it is a great and easy to read book. There are sections were he states plainly if you do X, expect Y sooner or later. And it is as if you are reading the post mortem of the housing crisis ( except he wrote it 70 years before it happened).
Most economic theories are so esoteric that the average person says whatever and moves on. They confound you with nonsense and chalk it up to you being a lesser mind (you can't see the emperor's clothes).
Hazlitt makes sense...
I have a 9 year old and I am making a list of required reading that she will be expected to read, digest and discuss with me. Start with Economics in One Lesson by Hazlitt. I have not read Sowell, but I know he is from the same branch as Hazlitt (if he does not reference Hazlitt, I would be shocked).
Hazlitt wrote his book in he 1940s. But it is a great and easy to read book. There are sections were he states plainly if you do X, expect Y sooner or later. And it is as if you are reading the post mortem of the housing crisis ( except he wrote it 70 years before it happened).
Most economic theories are so esoteric that the average person says whatever and moves on. They confound you with nonsense and chalk it up to you being a lesser mind (you can't see the emperor's clothes).
Hazlitt makes sense...
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:21 pm to Twenty 49
In Louisiana it is split, One Semester Civics the other Semester Free Enterprise.
I dont remember much from the class but I know we had an old black guy teaching us. He was a funny man but IDK if I could take him if Obama was in office....He wasnt too hard on Bush from what I remember though.
I dont remember much from the class but I know we had an old black guy teaching us. He was a funny man but IDK if I could take him if Obama was in office....He wasnt too hard on Bush from what I remember though.
Posted on 7/9/14 at 11:34 pm to fnchdrms87
Economics can be really eye opening if you can stay awake in it.
Once they start pulling out the charts they lose about 95 percent of people (including me)
Once they start pulling out the charts they lose about 95 percent of people (including me)
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:08 am to BabyTac
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BabyTac
Damn, bro. You are so mad and I'm not even sure why. I don't even think we're talking about the same thing. Have you read Sowell's book, cover to cover? It covers a little bit more than just "free enterprise."
Congrats on making 200k and being an OT baller, though.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:10 am to Kafka
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A variation on Home Ec (cooking, clothing care, simple car maintenance, budgeting, other life hacks) should be a HS requirement, just like Basic Econ, for all students male and female
No, all males should take Economics and all females should take home economics
This post was edited on 7/10/14 at 12:11 am
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:17 am to Turkey_Creek_Tiger
quote:Guys need to know basic skills
quote:No, all males should take Economics and all females should take home economics
A variation on Home Ec (cooking, clothing care, simple car maintenance, budgeting, other life hacks) should be a HS requirement, just like Basic Econ, for all students male and female
They leave the nest and they don't know shite
And they don't have a wife to do it for them
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:18 am to WeeWee
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My school had, but our football coach taught it so it was mainly paying an online stock game and watching videos.
did we go to the same school?
Posted on 7/10/14 at 12:50 am to fnchdrms87
It's required in MS. The problem is that it's usually given to some one incompetent to teach.
Posted on 7/10/14 at 1:02 am to fnchdrms87
I took micro and macro Econ AP in high school
My friend also paid his way through 2 years of Hopkins by playing with the stock market in high school. Went to a pretty smart school... Oklahoma's current frosh QB that won the bowl game went there too. Facebook feed blew up that night with all my old hs friends haha
My friend also paid his way through 2 years of Hopkins by playing with the stock market in high school. Went to a pretty smart school... Oklahoma's current frosh QB that won the bowl game went there too. Facebook feed blew up that night with all my old hs friends haha
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