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Why is Judas vilified?
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:32 pm
The man was pre-selected to betray Jesus. Jesus even knew he was going to do it the entire time and while Jesus acted like Judas had free-will, his fate was set.
So why is Judas always referenced as being in Hell? Or as a traitor?
Without Judas, Jesus doesn't get crucified and thus doesn't die for the sins of mankind. Thus saving mankind. And then Judas, so overcome with shame and grief, returns the money paid and kills himself. It's not even like he's some terrible person who runs away and lives the rest of his days with silver and concubines.
Regardless if you believe or not, it's something that's always puzzled me as to how Judas is vilified and not celebrated.
So why is Judas always referenced as being in Hell? Or as a traitor?
Without Judas, Jesus doesn't get crucified and thus doesn't die for the sins of mankind. Thus saving mankind. And then Judas, so overcome with shame and grief, returns the money paid and kills himself. It's not even like he's some terrible person who runs away and lives the rest of his days with silver and concubines.
Regardless if you believe or not, it's something that's always puzzled me as to how Judas is vilified and not celebrated.
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Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:34 pm to LSUZombie
Because calling traitors a nickname is better than their actual name.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:36 pm to LSUZombie
Good question.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:38 pm to LSUZombie
They pretty much done old Judas dirty
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:38 pm to LSUZombie
Yet without Peter our Lord is not denied. Peter, unlike Judas, sought forgiveness...'Peter, do you love Me'. Judas, unlike Peter, took matters into his own hands and took his life. Given the differences of the two responses one might wonder as to the heart of each...just a notion.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:39 pm to LSUZombie
I agree. Judas was doing God's will. Jesus was meant to die for us. Amazing. Happy Easter one and all.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:40 pm to LSUZombie
Simple.. because people are ignorant and don't think about what it would mean if Judas was pre-selected.
God obviously intended for Adam and Eve to fall also. There's no logical way around it.
It's a hell of a fantasy story
God obviously intended for Adam and Eve to fall also. There's no logical way around it.
It's a hell of a fantasy story
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:41 pm to LSUZombie
He's made to embody the weakness of man.
Looking at him reminds people of their faults.
Looking at him reminds people of their faults.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:42 pm to LSUZombie
Everyone has to have a villain in their make believe stories
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:42 pm to LSUZombie
Why does god let bad things happen to good people?
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:42 pm to bmy
No, God made provision in the event they fell. Don't forget, there were two trees and only one prohibition
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:43 pm to bmy
Exactly what role did judas have in Jesus' crucifixion?
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:43 pm to LSUZombie
quote:We've been saved already? So mankind could be worse off?
Without Judas, Jesus doesn't get crucified and thus doesn't die for the sins of mankind. Thus saving mankind
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:44 pm to Cosmo
Arise and fear not
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:44 pm to Cosmo
Poor Judas.
Dude was just doing his job.
He could have been on welfare, collecting a check, drinkin his purple, and smokin dank arse weed all day.
Dude was just doing his job.
He could have been on welfare, collecting a check, drinkin his purple, and smokin dank arse weed all day.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:54 pm to LSUZombie
Things don't need to make sense if you have FAITH.
Sounds like you don't have any FAITH.
Sounds like you don't have any FAITH.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:55 pm to LSUZombie
If memory serves correct Judas tried to return the money when he realized what he had done which sure seems to signify some self volition. Judas loved money and was known to take monies given for Jesus and the disciples as he was the keeper of their purse...this was not a man of sterling integrity long before the betrayal
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:58 pm to wfallstiger
We know what happened, Judas didn't know what his betrayal would lead to. He outed Jesus to the religious leaders who could not put someone to death as that was a Roman action
Posted on 3/26/16 at 10:59 pm to LSUZombie
Just because God knows what will happen, doesn't mean we don't have free will. Understand that we see time linearly, but imagine time happening in one moment.
We make all of our own decisions, we just can't perceive events the way God does.
We make all of our own decisions, we just can't perceive events the way God does.
Posted on 3/26/16 at 11:00 pm to LSUZombie
Had this conversation tonight. An evil spirit entered Judas as soon as JESUS handed him the sop. Doesn't sound like total free will.
Pharoah's hardening of the heart is another instance in Exodus. God is specifically mentioned as the agent who hardened his heart.
Pharoah's hardening of the heart is another instance in Exodus. God is specifically mentioned as the agent who hardened his heart.
This post was edited on 3/26/16 at 11:02 pm
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