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re: Why is AirBnB so full of shite?
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:06 pm to NOLAVOL16
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:06 pm to NOLAVOL16
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Only in very specific and limited circumstances - long stays and in situations where you would need multiple hotel rooms. Maybe also when traveling with pets.
Pretty much all the major hotel chains will let you have your pets now, and the boutique ones will as well because it’s an easy sell. A lot of the time it’s a low or no fee either.
Airbnb is also a big factor in the muck that is the housing industry too. One of those, the problem we solved wasn’t as big as the problem we created or helped create
There’s still a purpose for Airbnbs, like large groups where you need to accommodate more than 4 people, and when you do that it can end up a lot cheaper than a hotel. But if it’s anything less than that, just get a hotel and save the hassle
Plus I love the hotels that I can book without paying anything until a week before. AirBnbs need the cash up front and then only give you like 48 hours to cancel most of the time. Way more flexible just getting a hotel.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 5:09 pm
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Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:06 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Curious what issues others who hate it actually have, and are these issues predictable and/or obvious?
Most of the time things are predictable if you only book something with multiple recent reviews and are overwhelmingly positive with good interaction from the owner. I ask questions early and see how long it takes for them to respond. I continue to read reviews. I never book anything that does not have a generous cancellation policy. It reduces my options but I have yet to run into any issue that wasn't rectified reasonably.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:07 pm to NOLAVOL16
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My issue is mainly with how it effects people who aren’t involved in the transaction itself - The neighbors who now have to live next to a hotel and how the demand for these things has driven up housing cost for normal people.
I'd like to understand this better. What is it that is happening in the course of the typical / average Airbnb stay that is causing problems of any sort for the neighbors?
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:10 pm to wildtigercat93
Some do but even as a Hilton Diamond member, if I bring the dog they charge at least $100 cleaning fee even if you can’t tell he was there. Might as well get the Airbnb and pay their cleaning fee and have more space.
Before AirBnB I just snuck the dog in up the back door stairwell at Hampton Inns.
Before AirBnB I just snuck the dog in up the back door stairwell at Hampton Inns.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:10 pm to LSUfan4444
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Most of the time things are predictable if you only book something with multiple recent reviews and are overwhelmingly positive with good interaction from the owner. I ask questions early and see how long it takes for them to respond. I continue to read reviews. I never book anything that does not have a generous cancellation policy. It reduces my options but I have yet to run into any issue that wasn't rectified reasonably.
This is very similar to the process I go through. No place is 100% perfect, but just in the last 12 months I've spent 33 nights in Airbnb accommodations and have had nothing to complain about because I spent the time finding a good place with solid reviews and flexible cancellation policies.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:11 pm to DrEdgeLSU
quote:I used both AirBnB and VRBO many times and to have a full 2K square foot house house with a kitchen, separate bedrooms and a view for the same price as a 400 sq ft hotel with common areas and traffic is a no brainer especially in high desire areas like his home in St John I was at last week.
've booked through Airbnb a handful of times and have never had any issues. Curious what issues others who hate it actually have, and are these issues predictable and/or obvious?
or this home in Sedona last year. Hotels cannot compete with a great house for a week.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:12 pm to wildtigercat93
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There’s still a purpose for Airbnbs, like large groups where you need to accommodate more than 4 people, and when you do that it can end up a lot cheaper than a hotel. But if it’s anything less than that, just get a hotel and save the hassle
Plus I love the hotels that I can book without paying anything until a week before. AirBnbs need the cash up front and then only give you like 48 hours to cancel most of the time. Way more flexible just getting a hotel.
I guess it really depends on the purpose for your traveI. We have three kids, ranging in age from 8 to 15. I would rather stay in a cabin / condo / villa / house over a hotel anyday. That way we can start our day without disturbing everyone else.
As a solo traveler for business - I'd pick a hotel every time.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:14 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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'd like to understand this better. What is it that is happening in the course of the typical / average Airbnb stay that is causing problems of any sort for the neighbors?
Well, let’s use New Orleans as an example. What do large groups of people do when they visit? They usually go out and get trashed. If they have an Airbnb, they come back to a residential neighborhood, make a lot of noise late at night, party in the house, etc.
I’m not saying all of them are like this but in tourist towns specifically, you’re bringing the noise and problems that would normally stay in commercial areas to a neighborhood.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:17 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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guess it really depends on the purpose for your traveI. We have three kids, ranging in age from 8 to 15. I would rather stay in a cabin / condo / villa / house over a hotel anyday. That way we can start our day without disturbing everyone else. As a solo traveler for business - I'd pick a hotel every time.
Agree with this 100%
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:18 pm to NOLAVOL16
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Well, let’s use New Orleans as an example. What do large groups of people do when they visit? They usually go out and get trashed. If they have an Airbnb, they come back to a residential neighborhood, make a lot of noise late at night, party in the house, etc.
I’m not saying all of them are like this but in tourist towns specifically, you’re bringing the noise and problems that would normally stay in commercial areas to a neighborhood.
I get that. That's a good example - I just haven't really encountered it. But it makes sense.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:19 pm to wildtigercat93
I hate airbnb after covid, the fees became absurd for a lot of places. Then the rules that people have can be a bit silly, I'd prefer a hotel now days.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:32 pm to Geekboy
Part of the fun of Airbnb is cleverly devising ways to contact the owner offsite to book a room for cheaper.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:41 pm to GetCocky11
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don't recall seeing an 80% cleaning fee on my last 1 night Marriott stay. I think that is what OP is getting at.
Honestly, the issue is when clicking through properties they should display an apples to apples rate plus cleaning fee in the initial search. I shouldn’t have to clock into ea h listing to see if it’ll be $30 or $100
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:45 pm to LSUfan4444
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Because you're only looking at 1 night. The service and cleaning fee stays the same if you are booking say 5 nights so it wouldn't be double.
For 1 night stays, it's harder to find value in STR's
Thanks for clarifying what I thought. OP's kinda dumb.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:56 pm to NoSaint
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Honestly, the issue is when clicking through properties they should display an apples to apples rate plus cleaning fee in the initial search. I shouldn’t have to clock into ea h listing to see if it’ll be $30 or $100
You ever rent a hotel room? Bought a car? Signed up for a cell phone plan?
What you're demanding from AirBNB is something just about every other thing in the world does. Hell....even as something as simple as taxes.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 5:58 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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I'd like to understand this better. What is it that is happening in the course of the typical / average Airbnb stay that is causing problems of any sort for the neighbors?
I had one on my block years ago that was a shotgun double - tiny 3 bedroom on each side. I think it had 8(?) beds on each side and was marketed as a spot for fraternity guys to crash at like $100 or so a night. How do you think that was?
Then there are the blocks with more Airbnb then residential homes. I imagine that sucks. I’m not close with my neighbors but we chat and keep an eye out.
Now roll in rent rates in the city based on reduced housing availability.
Then, even in the well intentioned - do you believe your average Airbnb guest is as mindful of your space, quiet, cleanliness etc… as the neighbor you see every day? Obviously some exceptions but even if not the wild party, I’d venture the Airbnb guest is much more likely to come back noisy and drunk at 2am on a Tuesday night
And last up, the actual wild parties that have happened even if the exception
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:01 pm to wildtigercat93
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There’s still a purpose for Airbnbs, like large groups where you need to accommodate more than 4 people, and when you do that it can end up a lot cheaper than a hotel. But if it’s anything less than that, just get a hotel and save the hassle
or.....someone who wants a quiet, secluded place to stay in the mountains.
A hotel won't be there....and even if it was there, it defeats the purpose.
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:02 pm to pankReb
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You ever rent a hotel room?
Yes, and I will say outside of resort fees in select destinations and hotel types that this conversation is wildly different compared to going to Hilton.com
Sure you can get surprised with taxes, or added costs based on usage of valet, internet etc… but generally when I search a room on a hotel website it will give me the room cost and taxes will be the same across the board in a destination.
Airbnb owners set their own cleaning fees and those are wildly different from house to house. When I look at the list, or map, it should have rate plus cleaning fee built into the average rate displayed.
The owners of Airbnb as a company would laugh at you carrying their water on this
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:06 pm to NoSaint
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The owners of Airbnb as a company would laugh at you carrying their water on this
Pointing out that nearly every single industry has hidden costs that you don't find until the end process is me holding water for them? You definitely sound like a sane and stable person capable of logical thought. I suppose I could use the same line of thought and accuse you of sucking off the hotel industry.
btw the fact that you singled out the hotel rooms while completely ignoring the other two isn't lost on me.
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 7/26/22 at 6:12 pm to pankReb
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btw the fact that you singled out the hotel rooms while completely ignoring the other two isn't lost on me.
A) it’s the same industry. You know, apples to apples and all if talking about standard fee structures.
B) I’ll sign contracts on probably about $400k of overnight lodging this week alone. So it’s also a field that i feel pretty comfortable discussing.
C) I utilize both Airbnb and hotels personally on the regular
I think something was lost on you, but I don’t think it’s what you thought it was
This post was edited on 7/26/22 at 6:14 pm
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