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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:22 pm to SquatchDawg
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Did you ever learn about the three branches of government?
Did congress pass the Miranda right decision? There are hundreds of these cases. We don’t only have fundamental rights when congress grants them. The right to make our own decisions about procreation free from government interference is fundamental.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:23 pm to Centinel
And Roe has been explicitly called out as a shite decision for years, legally.
Even RBG, who was seen as one of the big defenders of it, was clear that the decision itself was crap. Between legislating from the bench and using the “right to privacy” generated out of thin air in Griswold v Connecticut, it was a poster child for how NOT to decide a case.
Even RBG, who was seen as one of the big defenders of it, was clear that the decision itself was crap. Between legislating from the bench and using the “right to privacy” generated out of thin air in Griswold v Connecticut, it was a poster child for how NOT to decide a case.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:23 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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I think we read the same exact thing and I’m still 100 percent sure the reversal was about abortion rights.
That's because you agree with the political decision that was Roe.
I care about the legal decision. But that's what separates people who care about the law and those who only care about their feelings.
And I've said before, I am staunchly pro-choice and want to see a constitutional amendment codifying the right to abortion nation-wide.
I'm simply honest enough to recognize a bullshite politically decision cloaked in pseudo legality.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:24 pm to TBoy
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The right to make our own decisions about procreation free from government interference is fundamental.
Nothing has changed on this front
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:24 pm to KLSU
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Again, where in the constitution or bill of rights does it protect the right to have abortions? Please answer this.
Humor me. List the 10 amendments in the Bill of Rights and give a brief synopsis of each amendment.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:24 pm to Btrtigerfan
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A constitutional issue about what subject matter?
A matter that is not into their jurisdiction, as they only deal with issues that are in the Constitution. For example the Second Amendment Right to bear arms and form a militia.
Just like some of the SC Justices believe you have no general right of privacy in the Constitution since it is not specifically listed.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:25 pm to KLSU
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Again, where in the constitution or bill of rights does it protect the right to have abortions?
You are a fricking idiot if you believe that we have no rights unless granted by positive language. If that’s what you think then go lick the boots of your government overloads.
The constitution grants government certain powers that it otherwise does not have! Government has no right to intervention into a person’s decision to have a child.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:26 pm to TBoy
Miranda came from a very activist Warren court in the 50s IIRC.
And quite a bit of Miranda has since been clawed back, as taking certain actions have been seen as waiving rights regardless of having Miranda read to you.
And quite a bit of Miranda has since been clawed back, as taking certain actions have been seen as waiving rights regardless of having Miranda read to you.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:26 pm to TBoy
this is getting melty, even for you.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:27 pm to SoonerK
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Just like some of the SC Justices believe you have no general right of privacy in the Constitution since it is not specifically listed.
That’s why this decision is fricking insane. It starts from the premise that we have no rights and then challenges us little citizens to find the rights in a positive grant. If it isn’t there, there is no limit on governmental power.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:27 pm to TBoy
The highest court in the land believes otherwise.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:27 pm to TBoy
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The constitution grants government certain powers that it otherwise does not have! Government has no right to intervention into a person’s decision to have a child.
Now do the 2nd.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:28 pm to TBoy
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That’s why this decision is fricking insane. It starts from the premise that we have no rights and then challenges us little citizens to find the rights in a positive grant. If it isn’t there, there is no limit on governmental power.
Now do the 2nd.
How very odd how you pick and chose what rights are absolute in this country.
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 7:29 pm
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:29 pm to Centinel
Bingo.
How one balances a right to privacy hidden in “penumbras and enumerations” while simulaneously claiming that the right to bear arms is not present is interesting to say the least.
How one balances a right to privacy hidden in “penumbras and enumerations” while simulaneously claiming that the right to bear arms is not present is interesting to say the least.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:29 pm to Centinel
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Now do the 2nd.
This used to be the Libertarian Party’s motto before the rise of the Mises Caucus.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:29 pm to TBoy
The constitution was not drafted to be a comprehensive listing of all fundamental rights of citizens. Go find a single basis for any such position. Hint, there is none. Zero. If the constitution is a comprehensive list of fundamental rights we are totally fricked.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:29 pm to Btrtigerfan
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A matter that is not into their jurisdiction, as they only deal with issues that are in the Constitution.
Okay, so unlike the OP, you admit it is about abortion
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:30 pm to TBoy
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The constitution was not drafted to be a comprehensive listing of all fundamental rights of citizens. Go find a single basis for any such position. Hint, there is none. Zero. If the constitution is a comprehensive list of fundamental rights we are totally fricked.
Now do the 2nd.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:30 pm to teke184
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Bingo.
How one balances a right to privacy hidden in “penumbras and enumerations” while simulaneously claiming that the right to bear arms is not present is interesting to say the least.
Who is saying the the right to privacy is not in the Constitution since it is not specifically listed and also believes the 2nd Amendment does not exist?
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