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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:46 pm to SoonerK
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I am staying on topic.
No, you're not. You're being purposefully obtuse because you are either unwilling or unable to discuss the topic at hand.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:48 pm to SoonerK
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I am staying on topic. We are discussing rulings based on where a right exists if it not enumerated specifically in the Constitution.
Sounds like you need to see this just like TBoy.
YouTube - Scalia on Paper Rights
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:49 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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You’re being denied liberty without due process. It’s a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment. Neither the Federal or State governments have that power.
I'm pretty sure these type of laws won't pass a Constitutional test - but it's a lot of bullshite
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:49 pm to sabes que
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So conservatives aren’t chomping at the bit to pass the most stringent of abortion laws?
Sounds like a damn good reason to amend the constitution, does it not?
Should be easily done, since this country is very progressive and the rethuglican conservatives are just a handful of bible thumping inbred idiots in a few southern states.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:49 pm to Centinel
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Chalk up another person who hasn't read the decision.
Even if Tboy read it twice and had a panel of the most respected legal minds in the country chaired by Alan Dershowitz himself to explain it to him he still wouldn’t understand it.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:51 pm to sabes que
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So conservatives aren’t chomping at the bit to pass the most stringent of abortion laws? I
They might be but it is a state's rights issue. We do still live in a federalist system the last I checked.
Why do so many of you want to be governed so hard by the clowns in DC?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:52 pm to Centinel
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If you believe life begins at conception, you are in fact depriving a person of life and liberty, without due process of law.
Sorry, but this current decision says that the rights conferred on the people, who have no rights otherwise, are fixed at the time the document was drafted. Unborn people had no rights as a person.
So under this decision, no, fetuses haven’t no such rights.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:53 pm to Centinel
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I am staying on topic.
No, you're not. You're being purposefully obtuse because you are either unwilling or unable to discuss the topic at hand.
No, I am discussing whether Americans have any rights that are protected by the Constitution that are not specifically listed by the Constitution.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:54 pm to SoonerK
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No, I am discussing whether Americans have any rights that are protected by the Constitution that are not specifically listed by the Constitution.
Do you believe there are and should be limits on constitutional rights?
Yes or no will suffice.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:54 pm to TBoy
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Sorry, but this current decision says that the rights conferred on the people, who have no rights otherwise, are fixed at the time the document was drafted. Unborn people had no rights as a person.
Well, the termination of a late term pregnancy might have gotten you convicted of murder. But not early term pregnancy.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:55 pm to TBoy
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TBoy
Shouldn't you be working on getting your very popular, uncontroversial except those stupid bigoted conservatives, abortion amendment passed?
Your side has the political will and support of the majority of the people to get this done, right?
Or is this issue (d)ifferent?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:56 pm to Centinel
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Do you believe there are and should be limits on constitutional rights?
Yes or no will suffice.
There are currently limits on Constitutional rights and yes, there should be limits on specific cases.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:58 pm to KLSU
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Does consensual sex between adults need to codified as a right at the federal level?
Damn you people. If it’s not a federal constitutional right then it’s states issue. If the state decided it was unconstitutional at a state level then yes it would be against the law.
Now do marriage.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:58 pm to josh336
It is
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:58 pm to SoonerK
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There are currently limits on Constitutional rights and yes, there should be limits on specific cases.
So then states limiting abortions to what they feel is acceptable is ok in your book, right?
Since there should be limits on Constitutional rights, according to you.
Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:59 pm to Centinel
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Do you believe there are and should be limits on constitutional rights?
Assuming there should be limit, how else to reconcile it with the Ninth Amendment’s statement that non-enumerated powers exist if not by persuasive argumentation about what non-enumerated powers might exist and letting the justices decide?
I can live with yesterday’s opinion because the process played out like it’s supposed to. Arguments are made and the justices voted on which arguments they agreed with. Those of us who disagree will just have to move on and make our voices heard in the next election. But don’t tell me that the Constitution doesn’t grant the Court the ability to decide these matter.
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:59 pm to Centinel
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 7:59 pm to UndercoverBryologist
If it was about abortion why is abortion still legal in the vast majority of states?
Posted on 6/25/22 at 8:00 pm to UndercoverBryologist
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Assuming there should be limit,
I reject this premise.
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