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re: Why aren't skyscrapers taller in Tokyo?

Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Putty
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:50 am to
Can barely land planes as it is.
Posted by Capital Cajun
Over Yonder
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:55 am to
Not allowed by neighborhood associations.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:20 am to
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Sometimes it has to do with the depth of the bedrock. You must have deeper bedrock to support taller buildings.


The tallest building ever pretty much sits on sand, lots of piers
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

OP said Tokyo, not Tokyo and Yokohama and Sapporo, etc. He also said Tokyo, not Tokyo and the surrounding metropolitan area. Google says Tokyo has 13.62 million. I also spent 8 months there, dumbass. The buildings are fricking tall.



Geeze, touchy. We're splitting hairs over Tokyo vs Tokyo metropolitan area. The real question is why aren't the buildings taller? You could accommodate a lot more people and lower the price of rent for them. Going more vertical just makes sense, I wonder why they don't do more of it.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 3:41 pm to
got curious and looked, Tokyo's tallest actual building is 838 ft

only 5th tallest in Japan which surprised me, but maybe it is like Chicago vs. NYC

love me some SkyscraperCity
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Why aren't skyscrapers taller in Tokyo?


This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 4:08 pm
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 5:09 pm to
When you but supports deep into sand its actually the most secure building foundation
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 5:25 pm to
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there is a live volcano right off shore.


Why would a volcano prevent skyscrapers exactly?
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 6:10 pm to
Tokyo is on a relatively small island. If they were any higher it would raise the center of gravity. Possibly causing the island to tip over too easily in the event of a strong storm.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:10 pm to
Easier targeting for B-29's
Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:20 pm to
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Parts of Tokyo have a maximum building height of 200m due to the flight paths of airplanes using Haneda Airport.


I googled
Posted by LordSnow
Your Mom's House
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:38 pm to
That's just what they want you to berieve.

They don't want it to tip over. They can't swim.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124167 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:46 pm to
quote:

Tokyo is on a relatively small island. If they were any higher it would raise the center of gravity. Possibly causing the island to tip over too easily in the event of a strong storm.



Ah, makes sense.


But really they should just build reverse skyscrapers under the ocean at that point.
To act as a a counterbalance
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 7:48 pm to
Not touchy baw. The poster that attacked me out of the blue and called me a dumbass was the one I spoke to.

The Louisiana state capitol is about 450 feet tall. The empire state building is about 1450 feet tall.

Southeast Asia has many tall apartment buildings. I always thought it would suck to live 4-600 feet off the ground.

The scariest one I ever saw was the old approach to the airport in Hong Kong, going between two apartment buildings, having to bank hard, and going in for a landing between thousands of apartments.

They do build a lot of high residential areas.
Posted by autauga
Member since Sep 2015
3654 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 8:24 pm to
Most likely BS but;

quote:

Kenkyo’ is the virtue of modesty in Japan. This virtue stresses being reserved and practical. Absurdity and individualism are rarely seen as positive characteristics. Japanese design prioritizes simplicity and minimalism. Traditional Taoist belief is that beauty should blossom in the mind and not be dictated by one’s physical surroundings. Japanese interiors and exteriors are often carefully simple, with little “flair”. Modesty. Contrast the Kenkyo mindset to the showy ambition of the Shanghai of today, or New York in the 1920s, and you can see why the skyline of Tokyo has remained simple.


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Posted by SuperSoakher
Member since Jun 2012
4585 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:11 pm to
Its the natural frequency of the building that makes it more or less susceptible to damage from earthquakes, not necessarily the height. Although the height is one of the factors that affect the natural frequency but there are other factors as well.
This post was edited on 11/24/16 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Halftrack
The Wild Blue Yonder
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Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:25 pm to
'Shrinkage?'
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 9:26 pm to
Can't find tall enough men to build them. I dunno.
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
14186 posts
Posted on 11/24/16 at 10:36 pm to
I was on the 18 floor of the Takanawa Prince Hotel during a 7.8 a few years back. The paintings were coming off the walls (on wires) maybe eight inches and then slapping the wall, only to swing out again and repeat. This went on for maybe a full minute before it stopped. 18 floors was plenty high off the ground for me.

You are correct. I could look out my window and see the apartment windows of maybe 200,000 people. Lots of folks in Tokyo. I know the buildings are built differently to take the stresses of an earthquake, and I think it limits the building height that works in a big shake.

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