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When did Tulane's student profile change?

Posted on 7/2/16 at 2:57 am
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 2:57 am
Once upon a time it was a private college for southern ballers. Somewhere along the way it became a safety school for Jersey kids who didn't get into Duke.
Posted by D011ahbi11
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:00 am to
Probably whenever tuition got really ridiculous
Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:01 am to
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Somewhere along the way it became a safety school for Jersey kids who didn't get into Duke.

What year did you enroll?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:10 am to
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Once upon a time it was a private college for southern ballers. Somewhere along the way it became a safety school for Jersey kids who didn't get into Duke.
It's been like that since at least the 1960s. I once read a late '60s book on college life which profiled a number of colleges. It mentioned that TU was mostly outsiders, partly b/c tuition was too much for locals.

On a related note: the entire state college system of the South was once the backup plan for Yankees. The same book I cited alluded to this, and IIRC Vonnegut mentioned it in one of his novels.

The South had a much smaller population in those days, and of course a number of state schools. Northerners who couldn't get Ivy League scholarships or make it into the overcrowded Northern state colleges would go South instead of paying expensive tuition at lesser private colleges in the North.

My favorite example of this is the great jazz pianist Bill Evans* (from New Jersey) who in the late '40s somehow ended up at SELU!










*He's buried in BR. Go pay your respects.
Posted by The Baker
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:16 am to
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Posted by DrunkerThanThou
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:45 am to
Hard to imagine them as being a member of the SEC at one point. Their current student body would not fit in except maybe with mizzou
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 3:54 am to
Freinds who went to LSU were calling it Jewlane by the mid 90's. Not even in a hateful way...that's just what they thought it was. Even people I knew at Loyola barely interacted with Tulane, or "Tuh-lane" as our family members pronounced it.
Posted by Sancho Panza
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:41 am to
My granddaddy & great uncle went there from Mississippi in the '20's; even then Tulane had Jewish Fraternities.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 5:26 am
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 4:47 am to
Dad graduated from Tulane in the 60's. It was very Jewish back then. He has a respectably Jewish nose and fit in fine until they discoverd he wasn't, in fact Jewish.

I'll have to ask about Yankee kids going there. That's never been mentioned and all of his college buddies were from the South.
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 4:49 am
Posted by t1gerst1gerst1gers
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:11 am to
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What year did you enroll?


THIS

Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 6:13 am to
I'm 32, and from what I can remember, it has always been a school for people from the Northeast. Over the past five years or so, more and more people from around here have been going there
This post was edited on 7/2/16 at 6:16 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:04 am to
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Over the past five years or so, more and more people from around here have been going there


Texas and Louisiana are the most common states of origin for incoming students.
Posted by MTB
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:09 am to
Most of this was set-in-motion when the took the risk of leaving the SEC. They took the lead of trying to construct a "Ivy League of the South" called the Magnolia Conference. They petitioned Rice, SMU, Vandy, Duke, etc to formalize the conference. Much like the Ivyies, they wanted to minimize athletics (limited scholly $, smaller facilities, etc) and focus on the competing academically with the Ivyies. Duke didnt take the bait because they wanted to keep their rivalry with UNC. Rice and SMU stayed in the SWC (Texas probably made them) and Vandy saw the benefit of being the only private school in the SEC and stayed. It was a huge gamble that didnt pay off.

How does this affect enrollment? Tulane athletically never recovered. Call it the SEC mentality, but most southern students want a full college experience. They dont want to drive off campus to sit in a NFL dome stadium that is 1/5 full (and that generous). They lack of a campus culture didnt appeal to most southern student despite the high academic reputation. Northern students could give a rip about athletics/campus life, they literally only look at Tulane's academic rep.

I think the on-campus stadium is a game changer for their university in regards to regional relevancy. It is helping shape the university as a "college experience"that just happens to have good academics.
Posted by G Vice
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:27 am to
Kafka, you be a well-read sumbitch. And I say that in a good way

I always heard this about Tulane: pay your fee, get your "B".
Posted by rintintin
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:28 am to
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Texas and Louisiana are the most common states of origin for incoming students.


Tulane's student body is less than 5% from LA.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:31 am to
It has never changed. Always had northern students just like all southern privates, with Rice a little less so. Sports cost money, endowment has never been great, and admin support has waivered depending on who is president. Football de emphazized in 1950. Put resources back into it in late 1960s.
There is a crowding out effect on donations. TU steers theirs to academics. LSU steered theirs to athletics , which worked when state coffers gave LSU academics all they needed.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:40 am to
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Even people I knew at Loyola barely interacted with Tulane, or "Tuh-lane" as our family members pronounced it.


I attended Loyola for a year in the mid-00s before transferring to LSU, and we barely ever interacted with Tulane kids. I have no idea what the statistics were, but Loyola always seemed to be a mixture of southeast Louisiana locals and international students.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 8:46 am to
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Football de emphazized in 1950


Made sense at the time. The campus took massive damage from the 1947 hurricane and you didn't have the lucrative TV deals back then. Football was a luxury.
Posted by Mufassa
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:00 am to
It's my understanding that Tulane has always held a relatively big Jewish/Northeast population. When I enrolled 5 years ago, the 2 most well represented states were New York and Louisiana, in that order. AEPi and ZBT are both big presenses on campus.

As far as the Jewlane moniker, the Jewish kids I met weren't offended. Quite the opposite, one of my Jewish buddies started printing and selling "Jewlane" t shirts, wherein Tulane's retro angry wave logo was made to be the top point on a Star of David. I thought that was pretty funny.
Posted by TulaneUVA
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Posted on 7/2/16 at 9:04 am to
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Tulane's student body is less than 5% from LA.



2015 new undergraduate class is 12.5% from LA alone.
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