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What would you do for someone who makes suicidal threats?
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:34 am
We have a close relative with a lot of issues. She's in her 50's, divorced and single, lonely, terrible financial situation (in a lot of debt, no retirement, shitty job), probably an alcoholic. All those issues have lead to depression.
She's always been a very dramatic person who exasperates her problems and likes the attention. The thing is, the past year or two she has repeatedly mentioned that she wants to kill herself. Friends and family have tried to tell her repeatedly that she needs to seek help, but she never does. We've also started to become desensitized to her suicidal talk because of her dramatic demeanor and her excessive use of it - ie. it has become easy to brush off that she isn't really serious and will come to her senses.
Regardless, her behavior isn't normal and there is no denying she is having suicidal thoughts- regardless of her level of intent to actually carry through. I think eventually without help she will reach a breaking point and do it. But, as many times as we've talked to her and tried to have her seek professional help- she won't do it. Is there any other option out there? I'm not sure if you can contact police or medial authorities for suicidal threats, or if that is even too harsh? Feels like one of those situations where they have to want help before they can get it themselves, and there's nothing really we can do, but just trying to think of any other options, if any, we have?
She's always been a very dramatic person who exasperates her problems and likes the attention. The thing is, the past year or two she has repeatedly mentioned that she wants to kill herself. Friends and family have tried to tell her repeatedly that she needs to seek help, but she never does. We've also started to become desensitized to her suicidal talk because of her dramatic demeanor and her excessive use of it - ie. it has become easy to brush off that she isn't really serious and will come to her senses.
Regardless, her behavior isn't normal and there is no denying she is having suicidal thoughts- regardless of her level of intent to actually carry through. I think eventually without help she will reach a breaking point and do it. But, as many times as we've talked to her and tried to have her seek professional help- she won't do it. Is there any other option out there? I'm not sure if you can contact police or medial authorities for suicidal threats, or if that is even too harsh? Feels like one of those situations where they have to want help before they can get it themselves, and there's nothing really we can do, but just trying to think of any other options, if any, we have?
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Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:34 am to Tigerfan56
I'd just leave her alone.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:35 am to Tigerfan56
kill her
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:35 am to Tigerfan56
Get her help.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:35 am to 4LSU2
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I'd just leave her alone.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:36 am to Tigerfan56
12 cats and a dildo
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:36 am to Tigerfan56
Pretty sure the only thing you could do is talk to the coroner about a cpo (I think that's what it is).
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:38 am to 4LSU2
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I'd just leave her alone.
Wish that was an option. I can't stand her, but she's close family with my wife- not really an option.
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Get her help.
We've tried to get her to go to counseling. Even offered to pay for it, and she won't. I don't know how else to get her help.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:38 am to Tigerfan56
serious answer: try to help
OT answer: set up life insurance policy with you as benefactor
OT answer: set up life insurance policy with you as benefactor
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:39 am to Tigerfan56
You can have her committed if it gets really bad. It's hard, especially for someone like your relative, to admit they need help. But literally EVERYONE would benefit from speaking to a counselor. Even the most healthy and stable of people could use an objective person to vent to. I say have a very serious convo with someone else that cares about her, and then you both approach her together with the idea of going to a counselor/therapist. That person will be able to determine what steps need to be taken. If she won't listen to the two of you together, try and think of someone whose opinion she REALLY values. Approach her again with that person, coming from the standpoint that you don't think she's crazy, just that you love her and want her to be able to talk to someone.
Don't give up. Suicide is the worst thing in the world
Edit: I've just seen where you "can't stand her" and she is your wife's relative. Well have a serious convo with your wife and do what I said above, but have your wife and someone else talk to her. Seriously
Don't give up. Suicide is the worst thing in the world
Edit: I've just seen where you "can't stand her" and she is your wife's relative. Well have a serious convo with your wife and do what I said above, but have your wife and someone else talk to her. Seriously
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:42 am to AU_251
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It's hard, especially for someone like your relative, to admit they need help
The most frustrating part is she won't even deny she needs help. She knows she does and has admitted she does. She just won't see it through and do it.
She's been approached by close family and friends, on multiple occasions, and has told them she would seek help. But she has never followed through and done it.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:44 am to Tigerfan56
Have someone that she is close with, who she actually likes, set up an appointment with a counselor. Doesn't have to be some crazy specialist or anything, just a therapist. Have the person close with her take her there, without telling her where she's going. The hardest part is the first time, but I think if you get her to the building, she'll go through with it. Why not, right?
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:44 am to Tigerfan56
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She's always been a very dramatic person who exasperates her problems and likes the attention
Which probably means she not suicidal.
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probably an alcoholic
Buy her a case of her fav bev and tell her to drink up
Posted on 1/4/17 at 11:59 am to Tigerfan56
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What would you do for someone who makes suicidal threats?
Ask her if she's serious, if she knows how and when she wants to do it. If she's serious and has a plan, call 911 and report all of that.
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divorced and single, lonely, terrible financial situation (in a lot of debt, no retirement, shitty job), probably an alcoholic.
Pretty good recipe for suicide. Make sure you report this too.
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I'm not sure if you can contact police or medial authorities for suicidal threats, or if that is even too harsh?
Yes you can. If you think the threat is credible, make the call. Don't threaten to do this. Ask about her intention and plan, if she gives you the above, make the call. Let professionals take it from there.
<----Therapist who had to deal with this more often than I care to thinka about.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:02 pm to Tigerfan56
You have a choice. Take her to help, if you have any thought she is serious or leave her alone. Worrying about her and talking about it only gives her the attention she is seeking.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:42 pm to Tigerfan56
Call the police and ask for a request of protective custody for her. They will take her to an ER for psychiatric evaluation. She may get held in a psych ward for a few days if the physician is concerned.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:47 pm to Tigerfan56
She cannot be helped until she wants to be helped. Everything else until then is a waste of others time and others money.
She already knows how and where to get help.
She even knows someone who is willing to pay for it.
Just pray for her and wait for her to reach out.
She already knows how and where to get help.
She even knows someone who is willing to pay for it.
Just pray for her and wait for her to reach out.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:49 pm to Tigerfan56
Sounds like she is borderline. That is a big hole to dig yourself out of.
I have no suggestions other than keep distance between you.
try LINK
I have no suggestions other than keep distance between you.
try LINK
This post was edited on 1/4/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:50 pm to Tigerfan56
First 3 responses:
One of those is bound to help.
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I'd just leave her alone.
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Kill her
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Get her help
One of those is bound to help.
Posted on 1/4/17 at 12:51 pm to 4LSU2
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I'd just leave her alone.
^This. My ex did the same. Multiple times. And was nice enough to put it in texts...
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