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What would America look like if slavery was never institutionalized?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:31 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:31 am
Question is in the title of the thread. What would the United States look like if there was never slavery? Slaves helped build the nation, but a war fought over slavery destroyed parts of it. I can tell you one thing, I bet it would look very different.
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Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:32 am to rpg37
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I can tell you one thing, I bet it would look very different.
Profound.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:34 am to rpg37
quote:Your sig quote.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." - Thomas Jefferson
What happened when we took from those who were forced to work, and gave to those who would not?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:35 am to TigersSEC2010
Trying to start things without ruffling feathers!
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:45 am to rpg37
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I can tell you one thing, I bet it would look very different.
"Different" meaning white, you racist?!?!?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:46 am to lsuwontonwrap
Can this accusation ever be avoided?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:48 am to rpg37
It would look like South Africa or worse. The average American would be much more racist just because they wouldn't have interactions with black people.
And we would suck at basketball
And we would suck at basketball
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:50 am to rpg37
Montana
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:57 am to rpg37
The southeastern United States certainly wouldn't be as fat, poor and unhealthy as they are right now.
This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier and much more attractive too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today.
This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier and much more attractive too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 12:58 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:58 am to Sentrius
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This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today.
This seems true through the 80's. How do you think the USA responds to the Mexicans if this scenario plays out?
Posted on 6/11/15 at 12:59 am to Sentrius
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The southeastern United States certainly wouldn't be as fat, poor and unhealthy as they are right now.
This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier and much more attractive too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today
This is a really stupid post based on 0 facts
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:02 am to Sentrius
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This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now
So the entire country would basically be like New England
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:05 am to rpg37
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How do you think the USA responds to the Mexicans if this scenario plays out?
We would have to be fricking like rabbits to maintain a healthy and generous birth rate to maintain a demographics advantage.
We're already seeing this scenario already playing out in Germany with the massive middle eastern immigration and Germany just passed Japan for the lowest birth rate in the world and it would be even lower if not for the immigrants. The gov't there has done everything it can to solve this demographic crisis but the child free movement/culture appears to be getting out of hand there.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:14 am to Ostrich
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So the entire country would basically be like New England
Yep.
To give you an idea of what could work in the USA in this scenario....
Just like those countries mentioned, Single payer healthcare could actually work in that scenario with the homogenous demographics, healthy lifestyles and low obesity rates and sizable enough tax bases. Maybe, just maybe. But in this reality? Not a fricking chance.
And even then, I would still be opposed to it in that alternate reality as a small gov't conservative but I would be in the minority.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:17 am to Tiger1242
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The average American would be much more racist just because they wouldn't have interactions with black people.
The civil war is a huge cause of racism in America, if a war wasn't fought over the slavery of blacks this country would have a very low percentage of racist people in this country. The immigration of blacks would have been voluntary and resulted in people that wanted to better themselves. The incarceration rate in this country would also not be the highest in the world per capita.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:18 am to Sentrius
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This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier and much more attractive too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today.
That's certainly the idealistic way to look at it
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:18 am to rpg37
The capital and military for Manifest Destiny probably wouldn't have been there. California, Nevada, new mexico, Arizona, and probably more states would be Mexico. Mexico might have been the most wealthy nation in North America today.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:24 am to rpg37
85% less fast food joints across the country. No 20"+ chrome rims that keep spinning even when you stop. No interesting sports. No uptown and 3rd ward culture. No flexible use of the word "motherfricker". A relevant Michael Richards. Etc.
This post was edited on 6/11/15 at 1:35 am
Posted on 6/11/15 at 1:34 am to Sentrius
quote:Abraham Lincoln's plan was brilliant. I doubt that he was the originator of the idea, but freeing the slaves and sending them home would have been the ideal solution. Hell, send them back with knowledge of English and French, tutors, arms and a basic understanding of crafts and industry and the country that would have come from that migration would be the most powerful and economically viable force in Africa to today.
The southeastern United States certainly wouldn't be as fat, poor and unhealthy as they are right now.
This country would be basically a giant Sweden, Iceland, Denmark or Norway and it woukd be even richer than it is now and healthier and much more attractive too. It would also have a very much more limited gov't than today.
Instead, we've got what we've got. I'm mildly Christian (a cafeteria Catholic), and I'm sort of buying into the idea of the sins of the fathers descending on their progeny. Our ancestors did what they did, their descendants are doing what they do. It seems only natural. But it could have been prevented using Lincoln's model.
Posted on 6/11/15 at 2:18 am to rpg37
It would be whiter than rice on a paper plate in a snowstorm
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