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What to do when asked to be a reference for someone you don't want to refer?

Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:42 pm
An intern I had a couple years ago just emailed me and wants me to be a reference for some new job. I specifically remember him not being very good at his job, poor work ethic, and just sloppy all around. I don't want to lie and vouch for this guy. What would you do? Ignore the email?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:43 pm to
"Look I fired you for a reason"
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101915 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:44 pm to
Tell him to go for it.

If anyone calls to ask about said intern, be honest that he wasn't very good at his job, had a poor work ethic, and did sloppy work.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 12:45 pm
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:44 pm to
There's a delete button on your email account. Just click it.
Posted by bartman217
Canton, GA
Member since Dec 2005
362 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:44 pm to
Tell them corporate policy doesn't allow for personal references, only that you can confirm employment
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Tell him you can only verify dates of employment.
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
Send a reference but only with the details of his employment.
Xxxxx worked here from ____ to ____ his job description was as follows.
Sincerely,
SUB
Posted by VaeVictus
Member since Feb 2017
1524 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
A) Tell him you aren't comfortable being a reference (truth)

B) Suggest your employer doesn't allow references (could be true)
Posted by Open Dore Policy
The Commodore State
Member since Oct 2012
4472 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:45 pm to
You reference that he wasn't very good.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:46 pm to
“I will pass on my experience with your internship while at my company to your prospective employer.”
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
13847 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:47 pm to
If he is using you as a reference he obviously must think you think well of him. Why does he not know he was bad at his job? Did anyone of authority convey this to him?
Posted by terd ferguson
Darren Wilson Fan Club President
Member since Aug 2007
108735 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:48 pm to
I'd tell him to go ahead and use me... then I'd let him know that I'd tell his prospective employer how big of a piece of shite he was.
Posted by Lsuhack1
Member since Feb 2018
866 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Tell him to go for it.

If anyone calls to ask about said intern, be honest that he wasn't very good at his job, had a poor work ethic, and did sloppy work.

Boo,
I think this is bad advice, what you should do is not bash them just not offer anything additional, I know in the HR training I was given this is exactly what I was told, and that any employer worth his salt could read between the lines. They always told me that if you wanted to give a glowing review that was fine, but if he was bad then just the bare essentials. Saves you from potential lawsuits and such.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:52 pm to
Just confirm that he worked there and decline to comment any further. You don't want to open yourself up to any possible liability or if it were me I simply wouldn't want to send any negativity out there. Keep any answers to questions factual and leave opinion out of it. Or maybe if you feel really strongly about it you can decline his request to be used as a reference.
This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 12:57 pm
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:54 pm to
This is fairly common for liability reasons
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22064 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

An intern I had a couple years ago just emailed me and wants me to be a reference for some new job. I specifically remember him not being very good at his job, poor work ethic, and just sloppy all around. I don't want to lie and vouch for this guy. What would you do? Ignore the email?




Confirm only dates of employment.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
25455 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Tell them corporate policy doesn't allow for personal references, only that you can confirm employment


How some of these people survive daily is beyond me. This is the obvious answer.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47465 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

An intern I had a couple years ago just emailed me and wants me to be a reference for some new job. I specifically remember him not being very good at his job, poor work ethic, and just sloppy all around. I don't want to lie and vouch for this guy. What would you do? Ignore the email?




You say,
"Hell Yea I'll give you a reference, buckaroo. But it seems that bottle of Johnny Walker Blue I was expecting via FedEX is running a bit late. Can you check on that while I whip up your recommendation letter?"

This post was edited on 5/2/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
23979 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

What would you do?


I think the folks with advice saying to confirm employment might have it right.

Though, one could fault him for not asking if you'd be a GOOD or POSITIVE reference for him, rather than simply a reference.

Don't necessarily want to bash someone. You could just say you don't want to do it.
Posted by RichJ
The Land of the CoonAss
Member since Nov 2016
3113 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 1:07 pm to
Two words, "Yeah, naw"...
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