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re: What specific projects could alleviate traffic in Baton Rouge and New Orleans?

Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:28 pm to
They did that section between I-12 and Highland. Now they need to go from Highland to Kenner.
Posted by Jackie Chan
Japan?
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:28 pm to


But really, BR traffic is never going to be up to par with its needs.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:29 pm to
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I'd be happy with just adding a left turn lane at Nicholson/Brightside.



Isn't EBR being taxed to widen Nicholson in that area?
Posted by RocketPower13
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:30 pm to
Have a possible answer but don't want to get banned.

#Equality
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:32 pm to
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I think the plan is to change the Washington street exit to a left hand ramp before the merge point with I-10, then route the exiting traffic underneath the freeway for about 1/8th of mile.


This is a complete waste of money for corrupt political reasons.
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Writing tickets for "blocking the box"



This X1000

I'd guess that 50% of the reason traffic is so bad on Perkins westbound at 5 PM is because of these assholes. They block traffic at Acadian, College, Essen, Bluebonnet, etc. and frick everyone waiting to go through the light.

This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:32 pm to
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This is a complete waste of money for corrupt political reasons.



I honestly don't see why the exit is needed anyway.
Posted by Darth Aranda
Naboo
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:32 pm to
Loop obviously

Katrina fricked Baton Rouge so bad
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:33 pm to
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I'd be happy with just adding a left turn lane at Nicholson/Brightside.



That's coming in the near future.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:34 pm to
I've sat through multiple light cycles only being a few cars back at Perkins/Essen because people can't not block the intersection. It's the kinda shite that makes me want to drag people out of their cars
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 2:35 pm
Posted by TigerRob20
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
3732 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:36 pm to
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I've sat through multiple light cycles only being a few cars back at Perkins/Essen because people can't not block the intersection. It's the kinda shite that makes me want to drag people out of their cars




It seems to me that if they could adjust the protected turn to occur at a different time in the light cycle, it would help this issue. I'm not a traffic engineer though, so I'd love someone to explain why that wouldn't help.

Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:36 pm to
The only part of New Orleans that sucks is coming in from Baton Rouge where veterans merges from the left lane. After the airport.
Posted by member12
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:37 pm to
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I've sat through multiple light cycles only being a few cars back at Perkins/Essen because people can't not block the intersection. It's the kinda shite that makes me want to drag people out of their cars



Happens to me regularly. Headed east bound on Perkins when traffic backs up in front of me from left turn vehicles.

I fricking hate College drive and Lee.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 2:39 pm
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:38 pm to
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Honestly, how does it make that much of a difference with the Dalrymple exit nearby?


The Dalrymple exit is not the problem. Regardless of the name, it is the Street, with the WB exit lane that starts before the I110-I10 merge, that needs to go. It just happens to be the Washington St. Exit. I dont know the history, but I am assuming that the Washington St. Exit was built first, back in the day.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 2:45 pm
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57472 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
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he estimates are that it would cost $20 million to relocate it
he didnt say relocate it. It should just be CLOSED. if you need to get off at washington coming from 110, get off at government and come down Eddie Robinson. Dont be afraid to drive through the hood, because if you are getting off at washington, you are going TO the hood.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32121 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:42 pm to
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I dont know the history, but i am assuming that the Washington St. Exit was built first, back in the day.


Yes. They took the minimum amount of land needed to build the freeways back then. The guy that fricked up that design has probably long passed away.

It's kind of astounding that the I-10 freeway decking between the bridge and College in Baton Rouge has never been widened in the 70 years it has been there. What you see today is the same narrow structure they built when they first installed I-10.

There were 200,000 people in the Baton Rouge metro area back then. There's 850,000 now.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47538 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:46 pm to
Simply Put.

BR:
--10 west of BR needs a connector to meet 190 at old bridge. 61 is made into a continuous by-pass until Gramercy at I-10
--Add a bridge across the Amite to connect Denham at Harrells Ferry.

South side of BR see the picture.
Add a Bridge.
Widen all that in red(Make a bluff road bypass go straight through that shite swamp nobody can build on and create non-stop flyovers for 73 at I-10 and 61(this is done already in Natchez fricking Mississippi with 1/5 the cars).



Nola: From 3188 in Laplace to I-10, widen 61 and make a it a continuous bypass

Northshore: Widen 22 and improve the 190/I-12 interchange.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 2:50 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67593 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:52 pm to
Bridge between Addis and Plaquemine and an expressway connecting 415 to the new bridge
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:55 pm to
They need to build a bridge just south of LA74 in St. Gabriel and connect it to LA30, then improve 30 to I-10. They would then need to improve LA 405 or build a connector straight to LA1 between Plaquemine and Bayou Goula. That will help a lot of the bridge traffic. However, it doesn't alleviate the traffic issues head from west of the river out to Livingstank.

For Livingstank, they should build a highway that connects to the 190 bridge and take it right through the mayor of Walker's house, wherever that is.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67214 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 2:56 pm to
NOLA's needs really aren't that bad. The traffic bottlenecks in Metairie on I-10 near Causeway, but really isn't that terrible most of the time. In NOLA, the grid makes traffic only bad during big events, at 5:00pm on Carrolton and on Canal and Poydres, and around areas that are massively under construction.

New Orleans has plenty of road capacity and redundancy, but it's streets are in absolutely deplorable condition, making many impassable. New Orleans just needs to spend massive quantities of money rebuilding its streets from the sub-base on up and repaving and patching all of the potholes. They should overhaul the sewer and water system at the same time, as leakage in those systems massively contribute to the sinkholes.

In New Orleans, there's very little that can be done about the bottleneck at Metairie. The only option that seems to be available is light rail. The New Orleans streetcar lines are great for navigating around the city, but they don't tae you to the airport. Thus, every traveler has to drive, uber, or take a cab to the airport. If rail service was available connecting the streetcars to the airport, it would take a significant number of cars off of that stretch.

Baton Rouge has the opposite problem, it's streets are in pretty good condition (with the exception of Government Street which would still be among the smoothest streets if it were in NOLA), but there is a massive lack of capacity and almost zero redundancy. The streets do not connect, and there are very limited numbers of ways to get from East to West or from North to South. There are only 3 roads out of town to the east (Greenwell Springs, Florida, & I-12), 2 roads to the west (I-12 and 190), 5 to the south (Perkins, I-10, Jefferson, Airline, and 30) but nearly all of those condense into each other at different points (I-10, and Perkins at Highland; Airline and Jefferson by Parkview), and 3 to the north (Plank, Scenic, and Airline).

Traffic isn't bad going north, but it is hell trying to cross the 3 rivers that border it on all other sides (Mississippi, Amite, and Bayou Manchac). To aleviate these issues, BR needs the following:
1. Flip the Washington Street exit to the opposite side of I-10 at the 10/110 Split. Most of the traffic exiting on Washington Street comes from 110, and the resulting cars having to merge left immediately off of the bridge combined with the southbound off 110 cars merging right to get to the off-ramp causes a lot of accidents and backups.

2. Add a lane of traffic Eastbound I-10 from Washington Street to College Drive. This would eliminate the bottleneck of all Eastbound bridge traffic having to condense to 1 lane because the lane for Washington Street is exit only.

3. A new Mississippi River Bridge between Plaquamine and the I-10 Bridge. This would take the DOW traffic off of the I-10 bridge and off of the LA-1 Intracoastal Canal Bridge. This would result in a huge reduction in backups trying to get on and off the I-10 bridge as well as reduce stress on the Sunshine Bridge.

4. Extend LA-415 over the Intracoastal Canal to intersect with LA-1 near the new Plaquamine bridge. This would provide an alternate route over the canal, reduce traffic massively on LA-1, and provide the western loop to get cars from I-10 to the Plaquamine Bridge.

5. Add at least one new bridge over the Amite at S. Harrels Ferry, Monitor, and/or Tiger Bend to Connect with 4-H Club Road.

6. Make LA 30 4 lanes with left turn lanes from Burbank all the way to Airline Highway in Ascension Parish.

7. Make Airline Highway 6 lanes with turn lanes the entire length from at least 190 (preferably I-110) to Gonzales.

8. Build I-10 exits and onramps at Pecue Lane, Perkins/Bluff Road, and an additional dedicated exit at Tanger just for either plant traffic or outlet mall traffic, also connecting Boudreaux Road with Robert Wilson Road.

9. Make LA 70 4 lanes between 22 and the Sunshine Bridge.

10. Make LA 22 4 lanes with a left turn lane between LA 70 and I-10

11. Create a controlled access loop highway between Plaquamine bridge and I-10 on the East Bank of the River which then crosses the Amite and meets up with I-12 near Walker, and eventually wraps around the north to Airline near I-110.

12. Commuter rail system linking Baton Rouge and New Orleans with stops at BTR, Downtown, LSU, BR Hospital District (between Essen and Bluebonnet), Blue Bayou, Gonzales, LaPlace, MSY, Zephyr, and NOLA CBD and the NOLA Streetcar. It doesn't have to necessarily stop at all of these places, but it should at least have stops where one could connect with a train that takes one to these places. It could even potentially expand to eventually include train service to the northshore or even Biloxi.

I'm sure there's more that could be done, but that 20 billion worth of work would be a nice start.
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