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re: What do you know about the voynich manuscript?

Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:55 pm to
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I thought that was very clear?

Well I thought so too but evidently not everyone did.
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:56 pm to
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I heard about this yesterday, and decided to do some research.

So you read its Wikipedia page, right?


In all seriousness, it's pretty cool, but is most likely just a bunch of nonsense bullshite.

You want to read about cool shite, check out the antikythera device, and have your mind fairly blown.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:58 pm to
that is clear. What is not clear is how that is really weird?

It's like the post was emphasising how weird it was that A was written by A and B was written by B.

What it meant to emphasise was that 2 different people wrote it in 2 different languages.

Or 1 schizophrenic wrote it
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 2:59 pm to
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Well I thought so too but evidently not everyone did.


The point is why does that particular fact need to be pointed out as particularly weird? If it's written in two different languages by two different people then that is what I would expect it to be.
This post was edited on 8/25/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Python
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:00 pm to
If no one knows what language it's written in, how does someone know there are two different languages?
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:01 pm to
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What is not clear is how that is really weird?

I think it's pretty weird that two source languages were encoded into one character set in different ways by two (or more) different people. Why would you do that? Why wouldn't you use one consistent set of rules for the encoding?
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:02 pm to
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If no one knows what language it's written in, how does someone know there are two different languages?


Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:02 pm to
Looks like a second grader drew the pics
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:03 pm to
Again, yes. That is weird.

What is not weird is that A Wrote A and B wrote B which is abritrary and I could just as justifiably say that

A wrote B and B wrote A
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:04 pm to
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If no one knows what language it's written in, how does someone know there are two different languages?

By a statistical analysis of the characters. Each language has a pattern of letter frequency. The letter 'e' is the most common in English but not in other languages.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:05 pm to
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What is not weird is that A Wrote A and B wrote B which is abritrary and I could just as justifiably say that

A wrote B and B wrote A

Which would be just as weird.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19429 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:07 pm to
It's semantics, but you can't prove the validity of your or my statements.

A and B writers are arbitrary since neither have a descriptor. So, A and B as they are assigned to each language are arbitrary and interchangeable.

So the assumption of A or B as the writer of A or B is not weird at all.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:11 pm to
Perhaps you're focusing too much on A and B. We can call them Joe and Charley, it doesn't matter. What's weird isn't they they're called Joe and Charley. What's weird is that there is a Joe and a Charley in the first place and that they used different encoding rules to generate the document from the source language. Or that they were transcribing from two different source languages.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19429 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:13 pm to
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What's weird is that there is a Joe and a Charley in the first place and that they used different encoding rules to generate the document from the source language. Or that they were transcribing from two different source languages.


Or 1 schizophrenic
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:14 pm to
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I thought that was very clear?

Well I thought so too but evidently not everyone did.


You'll have to forgive dirtymike, he is homeless and likes to have sex with his homeless friends in abandoned cars. nttawwt
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
14668 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:16 pm to
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Or 1 schizophrenic

Maybe he was ambidextrous and wrote part of it left handed.

Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
14668 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:17 pm to
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likes to have sex with his homeless friends in abandoned cars.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19429 posts
Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:18 pm to
We will have sex in your car again, and rub our wieners on it when we run past
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:20 pm to
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and rub our wieners on it when we run past



What if homeless guy A rubs just homeless dick A on the car and homeless guy B just rubs homeless dick B? Wouldn't that be weird?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/25/14 at 3:20 pm to
It was nice of you to leave a note at least.
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