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re: What Do You Know About Buddhism?

Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:58 am to
Posted by epbart
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:58 am to
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and buddhism is a selfish philosophy in real life that has some insight at its most basic level (desire is bad)


Not quite sure if this is your angle, but there is a greater tendency for those who might be deemed the best or most dedicated Buddhists to retreat from the world instead of participating in it-- I may be mistaken, but that is the impression I have.

If one were to contrast the ultimate achievement of Buddha with Christ, the one striking difference would be that Christ had to be very public and maintain an attitude of perfect love to those who comdemned him in order to fulfill his mission (fulfill the requirements that dissolved the karma binding him to Earth). It is a path that required perfect integrity to himself and his mission, but specifically had to be done amongst other people to achieve the desired meaning. Of course, Christian monks can be just as detached from society as Buddhist ones, so the argument is not entirely one way.
Posted by epbart
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:15 am to
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I actually went to India for a month this summer and studied Buddhism and visited some monasteries...Buddhism promotes the seeking of enlightenment through the removal of ones ego and ignorance. Ignorance is viewed as the cause all suffering from a Buddhist point of view


I would like to do something like that one day. I have a lot of respect for that path and do want to know more.

The ideas of ignorance and the world as illusion have their parallels in Western thought... I mentioned being influenced by Platonic thought myself in an earlier post. Inherently, that means viewing the world and the daily issues we encounter as impermanent or transient (analogous to illusion). Greater, unchanging Truth is found in Platonic forms, leading towards Unity and God.

While I knew Buddha did not acknowledge a proper God-- at least as a being (which is why it appeals to some atheists)-- I thought there was some basis for a soul. I wonder if that idea is consistent throughout the various strains of Buddhism.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 1:22 am
Posted by HeavyCore
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 1:35 am to
What Buddha Taught is a pretty great read. Once you are done with that, move on to Thich Nhat Hanh's "Heart of the BUddha's Teaching".
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:35 am to
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Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:55 am to
my wife was a "buddhist", the same way that some are "christians"… just by name association only, really…. but she converted to Christianity when we started dating….

but as far as buddhism, it's a cool school of thought… really peaceful
Posted by TigerExtreme
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:57 am to
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I had a friend in college who was a Zen Buddhist. He'd go on the roof and meditate every day. He was annoyingly happy all the time. Just loved everyone and everything, just never-ending positivity all the time. Goddamn, frick that guy

I officially proclaim this to be the greatest post of all time.
Posted by chRxis
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:00 am to
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I wouldn't go full on worshipping Buddha

neither would a buddhist… it's a nontheistic religion… they don't worship a "god"
Posted by akimoto
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:42 am to
I am a Buddhist is this is my take on the "religion." I am a somewhat practicing Buddhist, in that I do not meditate or attend services on a regular basis.

It is more of a philosophy than it is a religion. I was raised Buddhist and Catholic in that I attended Catholic school from 4th grade till high school graduation. All of the essential teachings of religion are the same in my opinion. To me, all religions follow the Ten Commandments. Point being, follow those and you are doing well. They make sense to me, don't kill, don't steal, don't cheat...

I do not personally worship a God, but believe there is one. Buddha is someone, whom I choose to follow his teachings.

In Buddhism it is about bettering yourself, while helping others and the overall good. I am a firm believer in karma, which to my beliefs and understanding is the core of Buddhism. There is no hell, but there is Nirvana. Nirvana is the same as Christians' Heaven.

Nirvana is where you are working to get to. You earn "points" towards getting there, and when you get those "points" you live in eternity in peace. "Points" are earned by good deeds, meditation, etc. They are deducted by sins. Your soul has a running tally of points earned. If you don't reach the required amount of "points" you become reincarnated and keep trying.

As someone said earlier, some Buddhist do not even kill insects. I will catch a roach or fly and let them outside, because killing anything is one of the greatest sins. It is hypocritical, because I have no problems with enjoying a steak. As long as I did not do the killing, I do not feel affected. As with any beliefs, it is all in how you perceive and want to carry out those beliefs.

I am not the most strict Buddhist there is, but this is some of my take on it. I am willing to add more to the conversation if there are questions.

Posted by Broke
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:48 am to
I knew a State Trooper who has become some zen Buddhist something. I don't know if he's still a trooper or not
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:57 am to
I really meant Taoism is very similar, not a form of Buddhism. They have strongly influenced each other. The Tao Te Ching is what I would consider a Taoist manual. And, to Mike, read some of the Gnostic gospels. They are unadulterated teachings of Jesus before the formal Roman church and government corrupted and created a religion around them. They are very close in meaning because all religious systems sprang from a fundamental spiritual truth.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:09 pm to
My life philosophy/ religion is an awesome combination of Buddhism/Star Wars/Quantum Physics. It's always evolving and interesting.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:13 pm to
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it's a cool school of thought… really peaceful

outside of SE Asia, maybe

see: Burma
Posted by sportsaddit68
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:16 pm to
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It is more of a philosophy than it is a religion.


I'm going to play off what he said. Buddhism is not a religion but a spirituality. This workd is full of Christian Buddhist, Islamic Buddhist, Jewish Buddist, and Hindu Buddist. Buddha isn't a god. He was a simple man looking to improve his life and mental state on a quest for enlightenment. What we all perceive as enlightening is different, but Buddha believed we all had our own Nirvana. Which as stated... Is like a heaven for us.

I know several people who was a catholic Buddhist. They used the Buddhist ways to help bring them closer to Jesus. They think if Buddha as no different than a Priest guiding them into the right pathway (nb4alterboyjokes) . The will power and personal level of completeness Buddhist has is beyond imaginable by many. Some of them won't say a word for years. Some meditate for hours at a time.
Posted by efrad
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:40 pm to
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Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:24 pm to
Efrad, that sounds very familiar to me. Good luck to you. If you want a good book on mindfulness, The Power of Now by Eckart Tolle is a good read.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:34 pm to
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I wouldn't go full on worshipping Buddha

No problem. He's not to be worshipped. He's not a dieity like God or Allah.
Posted by jennBN
Member since Jun 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:01 pm to
I don't practice anything currently but Buddhism makes the most sense to me. And they are decent people.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:22 pm to
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I really meant Taoism is very similar, not a form of Buddhism. They have strongly influenced each other.


Definitely. I was pretty sure that was your intention, but since SFP quoted your original post with a "wut?" and you had already logged off, I felt compelled to chime in to clarify to some degree.

And, as I mentioned, though Christian, I read the Tao Te Ching as well and find it very well thought out and enlightening. For that matter, I'm also onboard with your comments re quantum physics, etc. I haven't read the specific book you mentioned, but have read countless articles on the subject and I believe there is a strong connection with how science is establishing mathematical models of various aspects of cosmology that harmonize perfectly with the philosophical or mythological models proposed in Eastern thought... primarily Eastern, anyway. There is some similar thought in Platonic/neoplatonic tradition, and from older Egytian sources-- all of which influenced the gnostic Christians you mentioned.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 5:32 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
72937 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:47 pm to
Epbart, get or download a book called The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot. It is pretty mind-bending stuff as well.
Posted by epbart
new york city
Member since Mar 2005
2926 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 5:55 pm to
Will definitely check it out. Many thanks.
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