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re: What are your experiences with getting pulled over by law enforcement?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:14 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:14 pm to NWLATigerFan12
Well you admit that you were technically speeding for your undeserved ticket. While I agree that it was undeserved, I've had two speeding tickets where I was traveling under the speed limit. Now that's undeserved!
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Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:15 pm to northshorebamaman
I'm sure that plays into it with some cops, but I have a hard time believing its engrained in the LEO community.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:16 pm to upgrayedd
Yeah. Cops profile. But they should be trained against it.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:18 pm to rebeloke
Very well
1st time I owned up to speeding and the dude didn't mark me in a school zone which he should have.
2nd time I owned up to it again and he let me go with a warning.
1st time I owned up to speeding and the dude didn't mark me in a school zone which he should have.
2nd time I owned up to it again and he let me go with a warning.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:19 pm to Easy
I disagree. Using the laws of probability saves their, as well as many civilians', lives.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:21 pm to upgrayedd
I think it's more department to department, rather than cop to cop.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:23 pm to Easy
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Yeah. Cops profile. But they should be trained against it.
Why?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:29 pm to northshorebamaman
If you assume a certain type of person commits a crime, then that's who you arrest. You're no looking at everyone.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:33 pm to Easy
I don't think you understand what profiling means.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:35 pm to upgrayedd
I would say the same about you. What do you think it means?
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:39 pm to Easy
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If you assume a certain type of person commits a crime, then that's who you arrest.
This, by many, is considered profiling and it appears as though you agree with it.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:39 pm to rebeloke
One early Saturday morning (around 6AM) I had to go into work so I wanted to get their early so I could leave early in order to watch an LSU basketball game (this was years ago). I was on hwy 1 in between White Castle and Donaldsonville. As I got closer to Donaldsonville I must have been going 90 mph when I saw a cop. I started slowing down, I looked in my rear view mirror and that sucka did a U turn. It looked like some Dukes of Hazzard type shite.
He came to my van, looked at my driving equipment, asked me why I was going so fast. I told him "honestly, I am trying to get to work as early as possible, I want to make it home this afternoon for the LSU basketball game" (in fact, it was when LSU made it to the final 4 with Big Baby, Tyrus Thomas. It was the 2nd our 4th round of the tournament). He said "oh that's going to be a good one, you think they can pull it out" I told him "I hope so, but either way it should be a good one". He talked to me about basketball for a second. I thought he was going to let me go then he said "man I hate to do this, but as fast as you were going I got to give you a ticket". He wrote it up, pulled out his card, wrote down a number on the back and said "but call this number they can probably help you out".
He came to my van, looked at my driving equipment, asked me why I was going so fast. I told him "honestly, I am trying to get to work as early as possible, I want to make it home this afternoon for the LSU basketball game" (in fact, it was when LSU made it to the final 4 with Big Baby, Tyrus Thomas. It was the 2nd our 4th round of the tournament). He said "oh that's going to be a good one, you think they can pull it out" I told him "I hope so, but either way it should be a good one". He talked to me about basketball for a second. I thought he was going to let me go then he said "man I hate to do this, but as fast as you were going I got to give you a ticket". He wrote it up, pulled out his card, wrote down a number on the back and said "but call this number they can probably help you out".
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:45 pm to upgrayedd
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To your point about race/class, the unfortunate reality is that, statistically, those people are much more likely to commit crimes,
These stats are inherently biased. There would be limited stats about actual crime rates. There would only be stats about arrest and conviction rates. If police are investigating poorer people at higher rates then of course they are getting arrested at higher rates. If poorer people are getting arrested at higher rates and can't afford as good of legal representation then of course they get convicted at higher rates.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:45 pm to rebeloke
I show my blue lives matter sticker and give him a beat your wife or dog discount card for the local restaurants. They let me go with a warning
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:49 pm to upgrayedd
If you think young black men are disproportionally criminal, then you will arrest young black men at a higher rate regardless of whether that's true. It would be like an agent at the Mexican border looking only for illegal Hispanic immigration and missing whatever number of other ethnicities were sneaking in.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:51 pm to Easy
There's no speculation when statistics prove your premise to be true.
You're confusing dragnetting with profiling.
You're confusing dragnetting with profiling.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:52 pm to rebeloke
The six that I can recall only one guy was a dick. Motorcycle cop doing radar. Ticketed three of those (two of those well deserved and officers wrote them under the +15 mph over that I was doing). Stopped doing 96 late one night and Georgia State Trooper just told me to slow down. 
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:54 pm to rebeloke
Usually not good, I went over six years without getting pulled over then last month got a ticket for illegal lights. Was driving a friends car with those stupid halo lights and didn't know how to turn them off. Then cop said I failed some eye test and made me call a ride. I was pretty livid.
The last time I was pulled over in 2009 cop said I looked nervous and made me sit in the back of the cop car while he went through my car without permission (kenner cop, go figure) I got a brake tag ticket that day.
The worst for me was in 1998 when I got pulled over by six cop cars, guns drawn for my passenger not having a seat belt on. Real reason was it was late at night and when I saw the cop tailing me I lost him in a neighborhood just to see if he really was tailing me. They must have put out an APB. I went to Taco bell a few minutes later and bam, six cops guns drawn. But they fricked up. I had the duty sergeant's son with me.
He called his dad who came down there and cursed them all out and threatened to beat one of them up for putting a gun in his son's face. So what could have been a bad night turned into a decent story bro.
The last time I was pulled over in 2009 cop said I looked nervous and made me sit in the back of the cop car while he went through my car without permission (kenner cop, go figure) I got a brake tag ticket that day.
The worst for me was in 1998 when I got pulled over by six cop cars, guns drawn for my passenger not having a seat belt on. Real reason was it was late at night and when I saw the cop tailing me I lost him in a neighborhood just to see if he really was tailing me. They must have put out an APB. I went to Taco bell a few minutes later and bam, six cops guns drawn. But they fricked up. I had the duty sergeant's son with me.
He called his dad who came down there and cursed them all out and threatened to beat one of them up for putting a gun in his son's face. So what could have been a bad night turned into a decent story bro.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:56 pm to Peazey
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These stats are inherently biased. There would be limited stats about actual crime rates. There would only be stats about arrest and conviction rates. If police are investigating poorer people at higher rates then of course they are getting arrested at higher rates. If poorer people are getting arrested at higher rates and can't afford as good of legal representation then of course they get convicted at higher rates.
That would be true if these people were arrested and convicted for fabricated crimes. I have a hard time believing it's that rampant.
Let's look at violent crime alone. Young black men, roughly 5% of the population, commit half the violent crime in this country. Demanding that police ignore that stat is dangerous as well as foolish.
Posted on 6/12/16 at 4:59 pm to upgrayedd
We're really missing each other here. You're not following me at all.
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