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re: West Memphis Three Case. Anyone still think they were guilty?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:39 pm to ChewyDante
Posted on 1/14/16 at 4:39 pm to ChewyDante
Steve Avery is guilty as frick. Hate to burst your bubble.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:00 pm to jrodLSUke
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The confession.
The confession from a borderline mentally handicapped kid that was a textbook case of coercion?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:01 pm to ClientNumber9
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Steve Avery is guilty as frick. Hate to burst your bubble.
You have pretty poor reading comprehension if you think you've concluded one way or another where I stand on Steven Avery's guilt or innocence.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:08 pm to jdd48
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The confession from a borderline mentally handicapped kid that was a textbook case of coercion?
There's certainly a legitimate argument to be made suggesting his confession was, if not coerced necessarily, made by a feeble minded person under duress.
However, it is my understanding that he confessed on other occasions as well. AFTER his conviction even.
The problem is that he is underdeveloped mentally. That can be played either direction but it makes the issue of the confessions muddier for sure.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:15 pm to OWLFAN86
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Echols refusal to admit guilt and be released
Pretty sure it was Baldwin who didn't want to admit guilt, but he relented so that Echols could get off death row.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:17 pm to Bear Is Dead
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here was a pendant found that had both Echols and one of the victims DNA, but that evidence was legally excluded (forgive me, I do not know why)
No, it just had the same blood type both shared, not the same DNA. That would have been a smoking gun.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 5:19 pm to jrodLSUke
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What shred of evidence makes you think they did do it?
The confession.
the illegally coerced one that got every material fact about the murders wrong you stupid frick?
Jesse said they murdered the kids in the morning. The BOYS WERE AT SCHOOL THAT DAY. They weren't killed until the afternoon.
He said Damien raped the boys. There were no signs of sexual assault.
He said they were strangled to death and bound with rope. They were beaten to death and bound with their own shoelaces.
He was a metal retard telling the cops what they wanted to hear so he could go home like they told him. He obviously knew nothing about what happened or he would have gotten ANY OF THE ABOVE RIGHT. Moron.
at the pussy downvoting who knows they can't rebut any of this. Mouthbreathing dipshit.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:00 pm to REG861
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REG861
Bruh, calm down.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:02 pm to ChewyDante
sorry. This was the case that got me interested in law. I can have a civil debate with you, but i can't deal with some of these other posters. They're no different than the mutants in that shithole that went after the kids for wearing black clothing.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:28 pm to REG861
I always assumed Byers did it.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 6:30 pm to jrodLSUke
Wasn't homie at a wrestling show when the crimes happened?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:26 pm to Mouth
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I always assumed Byers did it.
I think Byers is just a legit crazy wierd arse, but not a killer. I've always thought it was Terry Hobbs.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 7:59 pm to ChewyDante
I grew up in the county in NE Ark where they were 1st tried & know a deputy that took Miskelly back & forth from court to his cell. He said Miskelly went into great detail about what they did to those kids. Of course he was borderline ruh-tard too.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:30 pm to ConfusedHawgInMO
Have any of you ever been to West Memphis? Much like East Chicago, IN, nothing good comes from a city that is attached with a direction and is in another state.
I do not wanna sound like Jesse Spano because that is not who I am, but the law does not protect poor whites in small, run down towns where a truck stop is the highlight and center point. Those boys, in New York or Chicago, would have been well educated and even weirder. West Memphis is an arm pit inside of an armpit, with not even 30, 000 people. It reminds me a lot of a larger Tallulah or a Delhi. There is nothing Crittenden County. There are some places to hear the blues that cannot cut it in larger Memphis. There are some decent places to eat -- but they're shacks. The city basically relies on transport of cargo. There is nothing of substance as far as technology companies. The city is a stagnant pool of goo. The best years of West Memphis were in the 1950's when my uncle and aunt lived there and business was decent beacuse of its structured roads and acces to Memphis. The place is also in the middle of the flood zone.
Point being, no one cares about West Memphis and West Memphis cares not for its citizens who choose to go outside the norm and dress differently, listen to Metallica and Slayer, live in a trailer park, and draw images and art that is beyond what a gump arse police force and average WM citizen can understand.
These 3 are innocent. There is no doubt in my mind. Misskelly sometimes worries me, but the cops fricked that up in the end. I do not know if he was privy to seeing the TRUTH that day, but Damien and Jason were not present. Jesse basically was discounted and as another poster said, he was at a wrestling match at another high school. Again, it is a shame and had this crime occurred in Staten Island or Carlsbad, CA and the 3 looked exactly the same -- they would all have been let go and the police might have actually caught the bastard who did this. DNA and a retrial saved these boys -- especially that expert pathologist (?).
The Mr. Bojangles theory was dismissed -- ball was dropped. The WM police knew they were in shite creek already (horrible police force with awful clearance rates). Ths WM police and the state of Arkansas had to cover their arse from day one until presently. They went for the easy way out. Meanwhile, the killer is still at large.
The animals and fish who ate these boys' privates was the slam dunk in the trial. The forensic experts made the prosecution eat cock. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the state's case fold up like a one egg puddin'. And the Alford plea -- it was the ultimate slap in the face, but what are you going to do? Echols did not want to die for something he didn't do. He was damn close. Echols owes HBO his life.
Does anyone know anything about all the Civil suits being filed?
I do not wanna sound like Jesse Spano because that is not who I am, but the law does not protect poor whites in small, run down towns where a truck stop is the highlight and center point. Those boys, in New York or Chicago, would have been well educated and even weirder. West Memphis is an arm pit inside of an armpit, with not even 30, 000 people. It reminds me a lot of a larger Tallulah or a Delhi. There is nothing Crittenden County. There are some places to hear the blues that cannot cut it in larger Memphis. There are some decent places to eat -- but they're shacks. The city basically relies on transport of cargo. There is nothing of substance as far as technology companies. The city is a stagnant pool of goo. The best years of West Memphis were in the 1950's when my uncle and aunt lived there and business was decent beacuse of its structured roads and acces to Memphis. The place is also in the middle of the flood zone.
Point being, no one cares about West Memphis and West Memphis cares not for its citizens who choose to go outside the norm and dress differently, listen to Metallica and Slayer, live in a trailer park, and draw images and art that is beyond what a gump arse police force and average WM citizen can understand.
These 3 are innocent. There is no doubt in my mind. Misskelly sometimes worries me, but the cops fricked that up in the end. I do not know if he was privy to seeing the TRUTH that day, but Damien and Jason were not present. Jesse basically was discounted and as another poster said, he was at a wrestling match at another high school. Again, it is a shame and had this crime occurred in Staten Island or Carlsbad, CA and the 3 looked exactly the same -- they would all have been let go and the police might have actually caught the bastard who did this. DNA and a retrial saved these boys -- especially that expert pathologist (?).
The Mr. Bojangles theory was dismissed -- ball was dropped. The WM police knew they were in shite creek already (horrible police force with awful clearance rates). Ths WM police and the state of Arkansas had to cover their arse from day one until presently. They went for the easy way out. Meanwhile, the killer is still at large.
The animals and fish who ate these boys' privates was the slam dunk in the trial. The forensic experts made the prosecution eat cock. I thoroughly enjoyed watching the state's case fold up like a one egg puddin'. And the Alford plea -- it was the ultimate slap in the face, but what are you going to do? Echols did not want to die for something he didn't do. He was damn close. Echols owes HBO his life.
Does anyone know anything about all the Civil suits being filed?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:35 pm to PiscesTiger
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And the Alford plea -- it was the ultimate slap in the face, but what are you going to do?
It was also a despicable way for the state to save face, both from a legal and financial standpoint. They not only got the 3 to admit guilt, but also saved themselves millions in wrongful conviction suits. As part of the plea, the three cannot file suit against the state.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:39 pm to ChewyDante
Terry Hobbs baw. The guy didn't even wanna give his DNA. When he walked in another room they took his cigarette bud. His DNA was also tied to the crime scene. Also Terry Hobbs nephew admitted to his friends that his uncle killed the West Memphis 3.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:49 pm to REG861
Wrong they where not exonerated. They pled guilty and was credited time served.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 8:56 pm to Unit225
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Wrong they where not exonerated. They pled guilty and was credited time served.
That's true. Technically they were not exonerated but they were released because Arkansas knew they had no case with a complete lack of DNA evidence, not to mention the two witnesses from the original trial having recanted their testimony. As said above, the Alford plea was to save face and prevent financial liability. I think Jason and Damian had a spat over whether to accept that deal or push forward in trial for full exoneration but with Damian on death row they didn't want to take the chance of 12 more neanderthals being placed on a jury and ignoring hard evidence.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 9:03 pm to Unit225
So Hobbs was the stepdad of one of the kids killed and a hair that could be a DNA match to him was found in the shoelace that was used to bind one of the kids correct?
wouldnt it be fairly likely that a hair from Hobbs could be on something that belonged to his step child......since they lived in the same home.
right?
FTR.....I think it could have been Hobbs........it could even believe that Echols and Miskelly did it but there is no way Baldwin was involved in that. That poor kid looked like he may be scared of his own shadow.
wouldnt it be fairly likely that a hair from Hobbs could be on something that belonged to his step child......since they lived in the same home.
right?
FTR.....I think it could have been Hobbs........it could even believe that Echols and Miskelly did it but there is no way Baldwin was involved in that. That poor kid looked like he may be scared of his own shadow.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 9:08 pm
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