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West Memphis Three Case. Anyone still think they were guilty?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:23 pm
I finally got around to watching Paradise Lost 2 and 3 recently, which of course are heavily slanted in favor of the 3 being wrongfully convicted and are largely responsible for the national interest in their case and cause. I saw the original back when it came out in the 90's when I was way too young to form a solid opinion on the case but I remembered Echols and co. being a lot more suspicious than the second and third installment portrayed them, so I watched it again as well and they do still seem suspicious as shite to me.
I read up a little more on the case online and in spite of the new found public acceptance of the narrative that they were wrongfully accused, I'm not entirely convinced of that.
It seems like there is a parallel to be drawn with the current popularity of this Steven Avery case and the documentary pushing his cause.
A memory refresh on the WM3 case: LINK
I read up a little more on the case online and in spite of the new found public acceptance of the narrative that they were wrongfully accused, I'm not entirely convinced of that.
It seems like there is a parallel to be drawn with the current popularity of this Steven Avery case and the documentary pushing his cause.
A memory refresh on the WM3 case: LINK
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:24 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:30 pm to ChewyDante
Not a good OT topic baw, needs more hookers and cocaine.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:36 pm to ChewyDante
I think that someone else did it. Convienence of that truck stop makes it impossible to know who.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:38 pm to ChewyDante
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West Memphis Three Case.
Shocking level of police incompetence and public hysteria.....
....may actually be topped by the astonishing level of corruption and incompetence displayed in a more recent case in Manitowoc county, Wisconsin.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:39 pm to dewster
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Shocking level of police incompetence and public hysteria
Not to mention perhaps one of the worst cases of judicial prejudice and misbehavior of all time.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:40 pm to ChewyDante
Innocent just like the Jena 6 amirite?
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:43 pm to ChewyDante
I don't think they acted alone.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:46 pm to ChewyDante
I'm sure there are plenty of inbred hicks who do
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:48 pm to CadesCove
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I don't think they acted alone.
THey didn't act at all. They were cleared by DNA evidence. There is no grey area here.
The state of Arkansas knew they had Zero case in a retrial. That's why they were released.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:49 pm to Cosmo
If you like this case - read up on these two.
Just saying.
Not a happy ending -
THIS IS LONG - Might want to print out or something -
LINK /
Happier ending -
At a Burger King on Maryland's Eastern Shore yesterday, Kirk Bloodsworth sat down with the prosecutor who helped send him to death row for the rape and murder of a 9-year-old girl. Nearly two decades later, Ann Brobst told him, DNA had identified the man who had really done it.
"We got a hit on a guy," he remembers hearing, in the immeasurable fraction of a moment before he began weeping, realizing the words' import, realizing that the state at last considered him a completely innocent man. Beside him, his wife, Brenda, broke down and wept, too.
"You know how long I've waited to hear you say that?" Bloodsworth asked Brobst, who twice persuaded a jury to convict him of Dawn Hamilton's brutal death -- and who yesterday apologized for how that shattered his life.
But there was more. The suspect, Brobst went on, is already in prison in Maryland, halfway through a 45-year sentence for burglary, attempted rape and assault with intent to murder. His name: Kimberly Shay Ruffner.
"My God," Bloodsworth said, "I know him."
LINK /
Just saying.
Not a happy ending -
THIS IS LONG - Might want to print out or something -
LINK /
Happier ending -
At a Burger King on Maryland's Eastern Shore yesterday, Kirk Bloodsworth sat down with the prosecutor who helped send him to death row for the rape and murder of a 9-year-old girl. Nearly two decades later, Ann Brobst told him, DNA had identified the man who had really done it.
"We got a hit on a guy," he remembers hearing, in the immeasurable fraction of a moment before he began weeping, realizing the words' import, realizing that the state at last considered him a completely innocent man. Beside him, his wife, Brenda, broke down and wept, too.
"You know how long I've waited to hear you say that?" Bloodsworth asked Brobst, who twice persuaded a jury to convict him of Dawn Hamilton's brutal death -- and who yesterday apologized for how that shattered his life.
But there was more. The suspect, Brobst went on, is already in prison in Maryland, halfway through a 45-year sentence for burglary, attempted rape and assault with intent to murder. His name: Kimberly Shay Ruffner.
"My God," Bloodsworth said, "I know him."
LINK /
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:50 pm to ChewyDante
They didn't do it. Natalie Maines and Eddie Vedder proved it.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:51 pm to Nado Jenkins83
The truck stop certainly raises the possibility of drifters or truckers from anywhere being able to escape and have no ties to the area, but the nature of the crimes was pretty unique. Someone tied up all three of them from wrist to ankles. And would those boys have been passing through that area that late on their own to where a random psychotic trucker simply jumped on a crime of opportunity to brutalize 3 random boys? It's possible but I have my doubts that it's a likely explanation.
Damian was a weird frick. Not just in a Goth way either. Or because he listened to heavy metal. Some of his answers and behaviors from the initial Paradise Lost raise a serious red flag. I've also read some stuff online, though I didn't really go into a great deal of effort to verify it, about some psych evaluations on Damian from time he spent in a mental institution prior to the crimes. There was some pretty twisted stuff in there that suggested Damian was more messed up in the head than the Paradise Lost series led on.
Damian was a weird frick. Not just in a Goth way either. Or because he listened to heavy metal. Some of his answers and behaviors from the initial Paradise Lost raise a serious red flag. I've also read some stuff online, though I didn't really go into a great deal of effort to verify it, about some psych evaluations on Damian from time he spent in a mental institution prior to the crimes. There was some pretty twisted stuff in there that suggested Damian was more messed up in the head than the Paradise Lost series led on.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:52 pm to ChewyDante
It was pretty obviously terry Hobbs in my opinion. His hair was was found in te binding of one of the boys.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:58 pm to ChewyDante
The "Mr. Bojangles" ball was absolutely dropped.
No DNA = no conviction...but I highly doubt Terry Hobbs did it, either. Remember, everyone was just sure that it was that Byars animal who did it after #2.
No DNA = no conviction...but I highly doubt Terry Hobbs did it, either. Remember, everyone was just sure that it was that Byars animal who did it after #2.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 2:58 pm to ChewyDante
I really am torn on if they are guilty or not. I've stopped at that truck stop before I knew about the case and there were a bunch of weirdos there every time.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:00 pm to ChewyDante
quote:
There was some pretty twisted stuff in there that suggested Damian was more messed up in the head than the Paradise Lost series led on.
Of course. Paradise Lost crew ,however, were not about to take that slant.
Also, didn't Jesse Misskelly end up marrying the girl he dated before he went away? Talk about holding out!
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:02 pm to Nado Jenkins83
The old muddy and bloody black dude did it.. if someone can ever figure out who he is..
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:03 pm to REG861
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THey didn't act at all. They were cleared by DNA evidence. There is no grey area here.
I was under the impression that the DNA evidence was not conclusive one way or another, merely consistent or inconsistent with such and such. And Hobbs was a weird character as was Byers. That whole area was littered with weird fricks.
Posted on 1/14/16 at 3:04 pm to Nado Jenkins83
It really isn't a question. The DNA from the scene didn't match any of them. We're talking foolproof science. Again, physical evidence ruled them out. The State of Arkansas woild not have let them go If they didn't know they were wrong, even if they won't admit it
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