re: We hear so much about rape culture, why aren't women judged for FZ culture?

Your neckbeard is showing.

Truly, this shite is simple. Don't chase women who act lukewarm toward you. This article may be mocked, but it's true: LINK


"The Law of “frick Yes or No” states that when you want to get involved with someone new, in whatever capacity, they must inspire you to say “frick Yes” in order for you to proceed with them.

The Law of “frick Yes or No” also states that when you want to get involved with someone new, in whatever capacity, THEY must respond with a “frick Yes” in order for you to proceed with them.

As you can see, The Law of “frick Yes or No” implies that both parties must be enthusiastic about the prospect of one another’s company. Why? Because attractive, non-needy, high self-worth people don’t have time for people who they are not excited to be with and who are not excited to be with them.

This may sound a bit idealistic to some. But The Law of “frick Yes or No” has many tangible benefits on your dating life:

No longer be strung along by people who aren’t that into you. End all of the headaches. End the wishing and hoping. End the disappointment and anger that inevitably follows. Start practicing self-respect. Become the rejector, not the rejected.

No longer pursue people you are so-so on for ego purposes. We’ve all been there. We were so-so about somebody, but we went along with it because nothing better was around. And we all have a few we’d like to take back. No more."

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yet it's okay to screw up the lives of nice guys through harpy level flirting and then a shove off an emotional cliff?

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Anything that gives women power over men is OK. Giving men any power over women is evil. It's a one way street. Come on, man. Catch up.

I'm not talking rape, I'm specifically talking about how guys now are being told what to say. Not the actual act.
We are being told everything feeds this rape culrure.

Sometimes I forget how narrow the focus is on some of the non-reader posters.

We do hear about it

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friend zone has deep-seated roots in rape culture

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The infamous “friend zone” is a desolate place, corroded with bitterness. When a woman makes the choice to not get involved with a man who is trying to initiate a romantic or sexual relationship, the man is said to be plummeting into the depths of the friend zone. Men often vent and joke about the audacity of these women who dismiss their wooing efforts and forsake them to such a dismal place.

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Anybody would be disappointed if their romantic interest didn’t reciprocate their feelings. But when someone jokingly states that they’ve been friend zoned, they unknowingly contribute to rape culture.

Growing up in a capitalistic society, we think in numbers. We think in transactions, in deals, and in worked hours. Guy invested in Girl, she needs to pay up, and sex becomes the transaction that will seal the deal. But sex is not something that is ever “owed” to another, no matter how many minutes you spent dolling yourself up or shaving your pubes.

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It’s important to be aware that the term “friend zone” inherently relies on the concept of male entitlement. When you use it, you let your ego take the front seat and your partner’s mutual interest and consent is thrown in the trunk. The friend zone both resents and blames the other party for not consenting. This disrespects the non-consenter’s physical and emotional boundaries, and contributes to a culture that normalizes this violation. A woman’s chance of being raped in the US is 1 in 5, and approximately 4 out of 5 assaults are committed by someone that the victim knows. In fact, 47% of rapists are a friend or acquaintance. As slam poet Dylan Garity puts it: “we all know the statistics but we don’t know how to accept how easily we become part of the problem.”

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My issue is, we hear from women, don't judge, don't sexualize, don't objectify. Great.

I just say in return, be honest and don't fz guys.

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Maybe the just want to be fricking friends? I know it's difficult to grasp for some people (not necessarily you) but not everyone wants to frick everyone they hang out with.

Scenario: An ugly/fat/whatever but genuinely nice co-worker, acquaintance, classmate, etc does some light hearted flirting or whatever with you. You've known each other for a decent amount of time and you enjoy her company. You gonna look her in the face and tell her that you are not interested in sleeping with her, or are you gonna be a normal person and just be nice and friendly?

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Maybe the just want to be fricking friends? I know it's difficult to grasp for some people (not necessarily you) but not everyone wants to frick everyone they hang out with.

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Most straight guys don't hang out with chicks because they're friends. They typically have fricking that chick in the back of their mind, however buried it may be.

I'm talking specifically sfp type two.

Obviously in scenario one, you like girl, you tell girl, girl says she doesn't like you, you can choose to be friends.

In scenario two. Two people have what is a total relationship, dates, phone time, dinners, time together. The love word used a lot.

No sex.


Again, I expect nothing less of the ot than flip it on the OP.
Personally I'm married, happily.
Been out the dating game for years. And haven't felt the sting of the fz, since 2002.

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Guys love to show off their junk. Usually unsolicited. #rapeculture

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Wanna be my friend?

We have different definitions of friend zone.

Lol

Rejection is not a friend zone.