re: Vitamins knowledge help

If researchers had it out for vitamins why would they publish any studies that found no increased mortality with vitamins? There's smoke and I don't feel like tempting the fire.

Studies are not AMA backed. Most researchers are not members of the AMA. Many M.D.s are not members of the AMA and that number is growing.

With respect to your father, my dad was similar with vitamins, but neither mine nor likely yours had any real training on the subject. Reading books by people interested in selling you vitamins doesn't count, because, unlike the citations I gave, those books/papers always tout wonderful, successful results. That's a red flag.

In regards to you liver anecdote, I'm dubious about aloe juice doing anything, but there are studies, by the sorts of researchers you don't trust, that suggest Milk Thistle can prevent and treat alcohol-induced liver damage and damage caused by some forms of hepatitis. Now, the problem is finding a Milk Thistle supplement that actually contains what it says and not sawdust or baking soda or other inactive filler.

I try to eat as diverse of a diet as possible to get what I need (lots of greens instead of traditional sides)

atheletic greens
Expensive, but good quality

LINK

Triage theory of micronutrients by Dr Bruce Ames. Worth a read

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Inadequate dietary intakes of vitamins and minerals are widespread, most likely due to excessive consumption of energy-rich, micro- nutrient-poor, refined food. Inadequate intakes may result in chronic metabolic disruption, including mitochondrial decay. Deficien- cies in many micronutrients cause DNA damage, such as chromosome breaks, in cultured human cells or in vivo. Some of these defi- ciencies also cause mitochondrial decay with oxidant leakage and cellular aging and are associated with late onset diseases such as cancer. I propose DNA damage and late onset disease are consequences of a triage allocation response to micronutrient scarcity. Epi- sodic shortages of micronutrients were common during evolution. Natural selection favors short-term survival at the expense of long-term health. I hypothesize that short-term survival was achieved by allocating scarce micronutrients by triage, in part through an adjustment of the binding affinity of proteins for required micronutrients. If this hypothesis is correct, micronutrient deficiencies that trigger the triage response would accelerate cancer, aging, and neural decay but would leave critical metabolic functions, such as ATP production, intact. Evidence that micronutrient malnutrition increases late onset diseases, such as cancer, is discussed. A mul- tivitamin-mineral supplement is one low-cost way to ensure intake of the Recommended Dietary Allowance of micronutrients throughout life.

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Proof of concept with vitamin K

Vitamin K

Lots of evolving data on the many underappreciated uses for Vitamin D in the data that I review

Let me know if can help with your pursuit of more info. My wife sells them.