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re: US suicide rate reaches 30 year high

Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Higher standards of living, more focus on superficial things equals greater likelihood of depression.

This. Placing too much value on material goods and status symbols and appreciating how good we really have it. But we are told everyday by the media and our politicians how shitty it is here.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:14 pm to


So from this:
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My speculation being, whether I personally believe in God and/or organized religion or not, it has positive societal benefits. Of course, if true, some would comment about "opiate of the masses" and such. And while I'm sure that's true to some extent, I'd suggest alternatively the result could come from less of a focus on material things and selfish desires and more on peace and helping others.


You got this?:
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you seem to believe that religion can prevent or cure depression.


I think you were reading what you wanted to read.

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129040 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:31 pm to
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In other words, it's possible that obesity is a risk factor but something inherent to the black population is a protective factor.


Black people(especially older black people) tend to be more religious than white people. That could certainly be a factor. Also black men and women usually have larger families than white men and women. So that could be seen as a larger source of emotional support for a person if they are struggling.

You could say the same things for Hispanics as well. Many come from much larger families than whites and many hold very strong religious(mostly Catholic) beliefs. Suicide very much goes against their faith. If your religious beliefs dictates that suicide is wrong and could even push you out of a spot in Heaven...you are going to be less likely to seriously consider suicide than someone with no strong religious beliefs.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:42 pm to
Stop making sense - this is the OT, no place for that here.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 4/22/16 at 5:46 pm to
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Black people(especially older black people) tend to be more religious than white people. That could certainly be a factor.
I don't know the data don't seem to align well, although it could be somewhere down the list.
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Also black men and women usually have larger families than white men and women. So that could be seen as a larger source of emotional support for a person if they are struggling.
This one actually makes sense.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34355 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:00 pm to
Mental health cost money. Budgets get cut and crazy people are on the streets. The violent ones become police issues. As a result they are overburdened. To relieve that they need more money. Where exactly are the savings?
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30512 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:18 pm to
Oil & gas workers.
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17338 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:39 pm to
Just a thought. There is a concept of maternal deprivation. Withholding affection from an infant, that can lead to significant issues. People are joking about social media, but it seems like we interact less and less in any meaningful way (TD is very meaningful), so is it possible people feel completely neglected which causes the wires in the brain to become crossed and fricked up?

Suicide wasn't a thought when I was a teen. There was "I'm going to run away" when mom and dad got mad, but ending my life never occurred to me.

We shun mental illness, but there should be compassion and understanding. People endure some awful shite.
Posted by Macintosh504
Leveraging Salaries University
Member since Sep 2011
52675 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:39 pm to
Our white guilt is beginning to be unbearable and it will only get worse unless we do something about it.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9388 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:41 pm to
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Causes, anyone?


Computers and cell phones.
Nobody can live a normal life and be that connected.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 6:58 pm to
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Computers and cell phones.
Nobody can live a normal life and be that connected.
Since this is specific to the last decade what was the cause 30 years ago? And why wasn't it as high in the the preceding years?

Basically, we are looking at trend variables and maybe we should look at cyclical variables.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
9388 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:02 pm to
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Computers and cell phones.
Nobody can live a normal life and be that connected.



All I can say is that the above things make me suicidal.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:04 pm to
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All I can say is that the above things make me suicidal.
Then for the sake of your well-being, you should probably get off the Internet. Don't even bother responding.
Posted by SanFranTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2003
4906 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:21 pm to
is data across all countries available? Curious to see country vs country, developed vs non-developed, etc
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2872 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:48 pm to
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Doubtful. Black men and women have the highest rates of obesity and the lowest rates of suicide.


Well that's because every time they head to the kitchen to get a knife to slit their wrists they wind up grabbing some fried chicken, watermelon and Kool-Aid instead......

It's truly a vicious cycle.
Posted by AU4real35
Member since Jan 2014
16065 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 7:51 pm to
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Causes, anyone?


Social media.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28452 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 8:15 pm to
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My mistake. Those poor brave souls that took their own lives. Maybe we should pin a gold star on their surviving family members lol.

Hey guys, I found the resident douche bag of this thread.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28452 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:19 pm to
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Older whites cannot cope well with no longer being the dominant, privileged race.

We had quite a discussion in one of my sociology classes about this issue

A wild dumbass has appeared!
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31535 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:44 pm to
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I have no idea but I would consider less actual social interaction in real world relationships probably plays a role. 

The price of living on electronic devices perhaps


Absolutely. Rx drug epidemics also don't help.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109082 posts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 9:52 pm to
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Weak minded people that wouldn't have made it through any downturn in history. Good riddance!


Nice job being condescending to everyone who has a suicide attempt victim in their family. Keep throwing stones from your glass tower, you count.
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