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US Navy gives up on fighter pilots and turns to drones; says the F-35 will be its last fig
Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:33 am
Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:33 am
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The US Navy is planning to stop using manned fighter jets in the coming years, according to Navy secretary Ray Mabus, turning instead to uncrewed aerial vehicles and drones to perform missions at sea, on land, and in the air. Speaking at the Sea-Air-Space 2015 conference on Wednesday, Mabus said that the currently used F-35 Lightning fighter "should be, and almost certainly will be, the last manned strike fighter aircraft the Department of the Navy will ever buy or fly."
By moving away from crewed aircraft, Mabus said the Navy could develop new fighting craft without needing to factor in the pilot's safety, a process that extended the time and cost of projects. "Removing a human from the machine can open up room to experiment with more risk, improve systems faster, and get them to the fleet quicker." To push the drone agenda, Mabus said he planned to create a new office for uncrewed technology in the Navy and appoint a deputy assistant director to champion the technology.
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:41 am to hikingfan
It's crazy that in a hundred years we went from bi-planes to unmanned fighters.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 4:51 am to hikingfan
Skynet takes one more step closer.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:12 am to hikingfan
There goes the rich tradition of naval aviation...
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:26 am to rmnldr
that is sad news.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:29 am to rmnldr
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There goes the rich tradition of naval aviation...
There goes the rich tradition of battleships.
There goes the rich tradition of sail.
There goes the rich tradition of oared galleys.
Times change. There are two kinds of militaries: Those who stay on the cutting edge, and those who become part of a target rich environment.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:33 am to rmnldr
No shite.
Remember when a naval aviator were the best of the bunch?
And to end with a bloat ware POS like the F-35....
Which is probably the push behind this in fact
Remember when a naval aviator were the best of the bunch?
And to end with a bloat ware POS like the F-35....
Which is probably the push behind this in fact
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:36 am to Jim Rockford
Im sure they know things I don't....but I don't see how these craft can have an advantage in a combat scenario. Other than tactics that you consider them disposable.
Latency of control and insufficient AI is a problem.
These technological advances aren't always for the better. The Zumwalt class is an example of this IMO.
Latency of control and insufficient AI is a problem.
These technological advances aren't always for the better. The Zumwalt class is an example of this IMO.
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 5:38 am
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:42 am to Volvagia
Well, it'll probably be 20 or 30 years before humans are completely out of the loop, presumably all that will be taken care of by then. He's just saying there's a finite end to manned flight. Which we already knew, he's just the first one to officially say it.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:48 am to hikingfan
The F-35 is so bad, it killed naval aviation.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 5:57 am to b-rab2
quote:is it really that sad?
that is sad news.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:00 am to JBeam
Just like the movie Stealth.... 
. Drones dont have instinct like Pilots do. This is so dumb!
. Drones dont have instinct like Pilots do. This is so dumb!Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:04 am to hikingfan
Well there goes the long awaited top gun 2.......
Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:12 am to goatman1419
After the F35 debacle I doubt anyone wants to build another jet.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:26 am to TejasPete
What's so bad about the F35? Multiple folks have mentioned it, but I'm not really sure what the problems were.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 6:51 am to CaptainsWafer
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:04 am to Ace Midnight
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The F-35 is so bad, it killed naval aviation.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:10 am to fouldeliverer
I'm sure you'll find plenty of articles on the negatives of the F-35 and I can match each with a positive one. Who cares. The US needed air dominance and superiority and the F-35 provides that. Nothing ever costs as much as initially planned. I've been working government contracts my entire career and this is always the case. Welcome to the real world.
As far as taking humans out of the loop in the future, I see what they are saying. However, there is currently nothing that can replicate the ability of a human to assess a situation and make a decision if there is one to be made. A machine cannot always be counted on to make the same (correct) decision in certain critical situations.
As far as taking humans out of the loop in the future, I see what they are saying. However, there is currently nothing that can replicate the ability of a human to assess a situation and make a decision if there is one to be made. A machine cannot always be counted on to make the same (correct) decision in certain critical situations.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:11 am to CaptainsWafer
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What's so bad about the F35? Multiple folks have mentioned it, but I'm not really sure what the problems were.
If you leave it, or the fuel truck supplying it, out in the sun it won't start.
I'm not exaggerating.
And it goes downhill from there.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 7:16 am to Ace Midnight
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The F-35 is so bad, it killed naval aviation.
This.
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