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US military cadets under investigation for Black Lives Matter salute photo

Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:49 am
Posted by trom83
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:49 am
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Officials at the West Point military academy in New York have said an investigation will be launched in regards to a photograph that surfaced showing 16 black cadets posing with raised fists. Critics claim the stance is in violation of policies governing political messages as it depicts support for the Black Lives Matter campaign.

"We can confirm that the cadets in this photo are members of the US Military Academy's Class of 2016," West Point's director of public affairs, Lt. Col. Christopher Kasker, said in a statement sent to Army Times on 5 May. "Academy officials are conducting an inquiry into the matter."

As the Army Times report noted, the raised fist is a symbol that has long been associated with a wide range of groups over the years, from labour unions to sports teams. In any case, some "active-duty officers" and veterans said the stance breaches Pentagon rules on avoiding "partisan political activity".

John Burk, an Army veteran who has completed tours-of-service in the Iraq War, has previously accused the 16 cadets of aligning with the Black Lives Matter movement and said that, if found to be true, it would be "completely unprofessional"

On his website, Burk wrote: "This overt display of the Black Lives Matter movement is not, in itself, wrong per say [sic], but to do so while in uniform is completely unprofessional and not in keeping with what the USMA [United States Military Academy] stands for."

In an additional statement uploaded to his website on 7 May, Buck addressed criticism he had received since making his initial statements and accused a New York Times report of "twisting his words" in its coverage of the incident. He wrote: "Civilians, and some military personnel, continue to voice the idea that it's their freedom of speech and they have that right; you're wrong. You give up your rights once you sign the dotted line. You wave your ability to do what you want, and say what you want."



Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:49 am to
they're real active these days
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:50 am to
That damn wehrmacht.
Posted by t1gerst1gerst1gers
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
393 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:50 am to
Damn nazis.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:51 am to
Nothing will happen to them. They'll be commissioned and proceed to their rear echelon cushy jobs.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:52 am to
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. He wrote: "Civilians, and some military personnel, continue to voice the idea that it's their freedom of speech and they have that right; you're wrong. You give up your rights once you sign the dotted line. You wave your ability to do what you want, and say what you want."


Lots of people dont get this. You dont own yourself anymore if youre in the military.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:53 am to
Right. And they'll continue to be a pain in the arse in the Army for decades to come.
Posted by crash1211
Houma
Member since May 2008
3136 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:55 am to
They were probably pissed at the sign below the
Barracks sign...
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 9:59 am to
You'd think that the kind of person who is able to get in to USMA would be above such dumbassery. What kind of bleeding heart goes to fricking West Point?
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:00 am to
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Nothing will happen to them. They'll be commissioned and proceed to their rear echelon cushy jobs.


Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112613 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:03 am to
Minority quotas
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:03 am to
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the raised fist is a symbol that has long been associated with a wide range of groups


They excluded white people out of this picture...must be racists
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:07 am to
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You'd think that the kind of person who is able to get in to USMA would be above such dumbassery. What kind of bleeding heart goes to fricking West Point?


They are trying to destroy us from the inside.
Posted by Black n Gold
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:10 am to
I'm sure these individuals will treat all of their subordinates equally once they get commissioned.
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:11 am to
The new military........ Lord help us all.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55446 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:18 am to
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Minority quotas



And gender quotas, too, it looks like.

One of the many reasons I never enlisted or tried to apply to a service academy is because I do not want to abide by the UCMJ, and the conduct expected of a professional soldier. So I didn't. It's not hard to realize your goals or mindset don't align with a given organization.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:34 am to
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You'd think that the kind of person who is able to get in to USMA would be above such dumbassery.


America is getting dumber by the day. This is good proof of that.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:37 am to
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America is getting dumber by the day. This is good proof of that.

my nephew flies P-3s, they have a box to collect all of the cell phones before a mission because one of the genii was taking selfies with a tactical screen up and sending them to his gf
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:38 am to
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my nephew flies P-3s, they have a box to collect all of the cell phones before a mission because one of the genii was taking selfies with a tactical screen up and sending them to his gf



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260351 posts
Posted on 5/9/16 at 10:40 am to
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You'd think that the kind of person who is able to get in to USMA would be above such dumbassery. What kind of bleeding heart goes to fricking West Point?


The military has become a social experiment in the past few years. That said, this photo doesn't bother me too much. I've come to expect it.
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