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re: UPDATE Quick Snake ID...bc outdoor board is dead right now

Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:05 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:05 am to
You can get a few Shepard mixes for $600 baw
Posted by 911Moto
Member since Sep 2013
5491 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:16 am to
Even with the head blown off, that is 100% a Cottonmouth. I've caught them, and that is certainly both the dorsal and ventral color pattern. If the dog was definitely bit (i.e., signs of swelling), you couldn't pay me $600 to watch my dog suffer through that untreated. There may be other options, but some sort of treatment is a must.
Posted by blebru1
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
154 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:35 am to
Vet is STRONGLY recommending antivenom, along with steroids, antibiotics, antihistamines, blood panel, coagulation test, and a slew of other stuff I didn't understand. Very demeaning tone, like this is my fault. I love my dog...but this sounds like it could easily break a thousand dollars.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20406 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 1:57 am to
a grand? your dog is not worth a grand? wtf bring it to the vet
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:12 am to
Sherwood South? Who's the vet?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:14 am to
I have always had the understanding that if the dog makes it through the first hour or so then it will not die from the bite.

However, this is in reference to my vet/friend and me discussing my beagle.
Posted by blebru1
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
154 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:15 am to
Dr Morris

Total will come out to $1500
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73680 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:19 am to
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Total will come out to $1500


Geez, sickening what they feel they can charge just because it is an overnight clinic.
Posted by Sal Minella
Member since Nov 2006
1951 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 2:20 am to
Damn. Good luck with your dog!

I've been going to Sherwood South for 20 years. Never dealt with Dr. Morris but the practice is great.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:05 am to
Especially for a snakebite.

Cottonmouth bites are almost never a big deal for a big healthy dog. They swell up for a day or two and they're back to normal. Benadryl does them as much good as anything.
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
37743 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:11 am to
I've had a shitload of dogs get bit by a shitload of snakes and have never had one die from it. Have spent zero dollars on their vet care during the process. My pow pow told a long time ago that dogs are built to withstand snake bites. So far he has been correct
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:22 am to
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Geez, sickening what they feel they can charge just because it is an overnight clinic.


Geez, not like you have to pay it. Of course I suppose you think there should be no difference between regular service hour charges and emergency hours charges right? Yes you pay more for emergency services, but the meds used to treat the animal cost the same regardless. Compensating the staff for after hours work is going to cost you no matter the clinic
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:26 am to
Same here. I brought one because my mom made me a few years back. Vet didn't charge me and wrote my mom a note saying the dog was going to be fine
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10174 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 5:50 am to
quote:

I've had a shitload of dogs get bit by a shitload of snakes and have never had one die from it. Have spent zero dollars on their vet care during the process. My pow pow told a long time ago that dogs are built to withstand snake bites. So far he has been correct


This! I had a BMC when I was a kid get bit all the time. My Blue Lacy gets bit at least once a a year.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:37 am to
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Mangled snake.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:47 am to
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Always heard you give your dog Benadryl if it is bitten by a snake. He will get sick for a couple days but will shake back. Also will build up some immunity so next time a moccasin comes at him he can show him who is Baws!!



I've known of farm dogs to take a bite, swell up and then recover.
I was told as a kid that the venom didn't affect dogs as much as humans. Truth was, my grandparents didn't want to take the dogs to the vet because of $$. They never went and got a dog either. All their dogs just showed up on the farm one day.

I also learned that rattlers don't always inject venom. As my grandpa was bit, but had no venom and no swelling.

Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 6:51 am to
quote:

I've had a shitload of dogs get bit by a shitload of snakes and have never had one die from it. Have spent zero dollars on their vet care during the process. My pow pow told a long time ago that dogs are built to withstand snake bites. So far he has been correct



yeah this is what I was led to believe.

They swell up and go through a few days of pain and then it goes back down.

I remember when Sampson got bit by a diamond back, his back leg got huge. But it went away.
That dog was tough as shite though.
When you petted him you could feel shotgun pellets under his skin.
He had been shot before.
He was finally killed by a neighbor for chasing his horse.

Stuck with me though that dogs can handle venom.

(though for my dog now, she goes to the vet when she has a slight fever, so I know I would bring her for a bite)
Posted by Dorothy
Munchkinland
Member since Oct 2008
18153 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:38 am to
Definitely a cottonmouth. Hope your dog is ok.

And how come the cost of anti venom treatment for dogs seems to be so much cheaper than for humans? I've heard Crofab prices are anywhere from $2000 and up per vial, with 10-12 vials usually needed.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69071 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 7:39 am to
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And how come the cost of anti venom treatment for dogs seems to be so much cheaper than for humans? I've heard Crofab prices are anywhere from $2000 and up per vial, with 10-12 vials usually needed.


One can milk insurance companies, the other has almost 100% COD paying customers.

This post was edited on 7/8/14 at 7:40 am
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
54848 posts
Posted on 7/8/14 at 8:13 am to
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And how come the cost of anti venom treatment for dogs seems to be so much cheaper than for humans?


It's animal grade medicine, that's why.
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