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re: Update: 22 new charges for Endymion drunk driver

Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:16 pm to
I know right

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:17 pm to
If he were a contributing player at LSU they'd be singing a very different tune
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143616 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:18 pm to
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but he also doesn't deserve to walk out of jail as a free man ever again either.


What? Seriously?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43109 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:20 pm to
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kid is definitely so stupid as to be dangerous and needs to do time, but can we stop pretending you give a shite about other people? people are pissed about the damage to the "events" reputation of the city, and then a lot of you are drama queens that just want to join in

here is what I find is said the least and it should be said the most

"thank god no one was killed"
That's ALL we were saying was thank God no one was killed. And also that this kid really fricked up his life and I actually feel for his parents (and him to some extent). What do you mean people want to "just join in"? You don't think people are genuinely concerned/pissed/sad/etc about what happened?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:24 pm to
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but he also doesn't deserve to walk out of jail as a free man ever again either.


dude, wtf.

Rapists don't get life. This guy fricked up BAD, but come on.

Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:26 pm to
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we already over-prosecute DWIs and there has been an insane downturn in the rates over the past few decades


great stats if its not you, your wife or kid thats getting run over.


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an insane downturn in the rates



really? define insane. How many people being hurt/killed by a drunk driver do you think is acceptable?


As for "over prosecuting", maybe if we'd quit giving first offenders pretrial deals and all the bullshite "programs" we offer to these criminals and make the punishment absolute and severe, we wouldn't have so many cases to over prosecute.

i'm glad rates are at an all time low. Now imagine if we doubled the effort. Maybe the rates could be even lower.
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1698 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:28 pm to
its the weird thing about the justice system. If any of us had been standing by the dump truck that he crashed into, this would be a totally different story. Right?
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90510 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:29 pm to
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As for "over prosecuting", maybe if we'd quit giving first offenders pretrial deals and all the bullshite "programs" we offer to these criminals and make the punishment absolute and severe, we wouldn't have so many cases to over prosecute


Because how would they make money off of it.

You would also destroy the workforce
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:29 pm to
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You don't think people are genuinely concerned/pissed/sad/etc about what happened?
duh, I remember that 5 year old girl killed at her own birthday party because some dudes sprayed the place trying to hit one guy. how much outrage did you have then, huh? how concerned were you? how many threads were started on this board?

This post was edited on 3/1/17 at 1:34 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:30 pm to
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great stats if its not you, your wife or kid thats getting run over.

you want to apply outlier, subjective horror stories as our general criminal philosophy? ignore macro stats and objective data instead?

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How many people being hurt/killed by a drunk driver do you think is acceptable?

you're phrasing this as if we could ever create a perfect system. that's impossible

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As for "over prosecuting", maybe if we'd quit giving first offenders pretrial deals and all the bullshite "programs" we offer to these criminals and make the punishment absolute and severe, we wouldn't have so many cases to over prosecute.
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As for "over prosecuting", maybe if we'd quit giving first offenders pretrial deals and all the bullshite "programs" we offer to these criminals and make the punishment absolute and severe, we wouldn't have so many cases to over prosecute.

these cases are over-prosecuted because they've destroyed some civil rights on this conquest and also expanded the definition of "DWI" to behaviors that aren't very dangerous. and yet the rates, even given these 2 facts, keep going down

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i'm glad rates are at an all time low. Now imagine if we doubled the effort. Maybe the rates could be even lower.

Posted by LSUgirl4
Member since Sep 2009
39501 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:31 pm to
do you think he'll ever be able to have his license again or any company will insure him?
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:31 pm to
they sure weren't this mad when eddie price was driving around blitzed.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:32 pm to
Get completely shitfaced drunk at .232 and wrap your car around a lightpole:

Do you deserve life or the death penalty?

Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:33 pm to
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.232
this was actually hours after the incident


it's kind of amazing this kid didn't die from alcohol poisoning
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:34 pm to
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I feel like this kid is going to get more than he should because the city is so dependent on tourism. 



I feel he shouldn't have drove drunk into 21 people, could have easily killed any.

He's lucky he didn't. That's what is really saving him.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112620 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:35 pm to
Uber and Lyft have probably contributed more to the declining rates than the government ever could.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95170 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:35 pm to
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this was actually hours after the incident


it's kind of amazing this kid didn't die from alcohol poisoning
Absolutely. The crime here is driving drunk. So if you think driving shifaced is worth life in prison, that means if you simply smoke a lightpole, or get pulled over by the cops, you are going to prison for life......
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:35 pm to
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do you think he'll ever be able to have his license again

yeah i think he could but it would take years and years. i forget the admin rules on these serious crimes

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or any company will insure him?


now THAT will be an issue
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422465 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:36 pm to
just wait until i ask them if texting while driving deserves life in prison, b/c that's more dangerous that most DWIs
Posted by jsk020
Nola
Member since Jan 2013
1698 posts
Posted on 3/1/17 at 1:37 pm to
there's definetly a difference or there should be in a dwi at 0.08 and 0.232.

sure most people here have at one time driven at .08 but not at .232, since most of us have friends that would stop us
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