re: Unintended consequences of smoking ban in New Orleans

If we're trying to ban trashiness, New Orleans should shut down the bars at 2, not let women show their tits, disallow open container laws, illegalize gambling both at video poker machines and Harrah's, and shut down the strip clubs.

Trashiness is fun. That's why people fly from all over the world to go to New Orleans, to get trashy. A non trashy New Orleans would be pretty lame.

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k it's a good sign that the people are becoming less trashy. Smoking is trashy

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Can you realize that this argument has nothing to do with actually smoking? Nobody here is arguing the merits of smoking.

Man, you are so mad. People are arguing about he merits of the ban. Aside from that, the ban may be good as a sign that people are disfavorinf smoking more on the whole. I wasn't arguing with anybody about whether smoking is good or bad. Are you stupid?

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These are public places privately owned,

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they can say that, but they can refuse service to whomever they like

i don't like smoking, but let's remember they are people too

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Well if the state is providing a service its not completely private is it? which was the original point. These are public places privately owned, stop acting like the government kicked the door in at your house and took your smokes, and maybe take a Civics class at Delgado.

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Yeah, yeah, we know. They didn't build that.

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Unless they are taking an allotted smoke break, in which case they would have taken a break pre-ban as well, so nothing has changed except where the break is taken.

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Most bartenders smoke. The bar is empty inside and there is no need for them to stand around and play angry birds for 10 minutes between people ordering drinks


Eta: I have been to a lot of bars for a long time. Mornings, days, afternoons, nights, and late nights. IMHO, people in New Orleans bars are much different than people in other big cities. I don't think adaptation will happen because frankly, we're not as uppity as other places in the world. I think it will hurt many smaller bars, service industry bars, and bars without patios a lot, and force most of them to shut down. It won't be long before the complaints start rolling in from the noise, trash, and fights.

I know a couple of bar owners who have opened up their back areas where trash used to be kept. So now, you have people who are walking behind the bar, into the stock rooms and offices, to go to am area that has a bunch of trash cans, and is surrounded by homes 10ft away. These areas are now packed with people......and the inside of the bar has MAYBE 10% of the people as outside

A majority of the country has banned smoking indoors. A majority of those who haven't are the poorest and unhealthiest.

Smoking bans are just turrible...

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You know in “Billy Madison” when Billy gives the answer about the puppy that lost its way....Yep, that's essentially what Tiger Droppings is.

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This right here....this made my day.

It's not why I think it's justified. It's what I like about it.

I don't remember since it was a long time ago but I'm sure these same people were angry when smoking was banned on planes and then in resturants. Both of those industries seem to have adjusted just fine as well as the smokers. I'm pretty sure the same thing will happen in this case and everything will be ok. I understand the argument that it's unamerican to ban smoking at certain places but it's ulimately a good thing. I don't know how many more studies we need to show to dangers of smoking but it's pretty evident that it's harmful to everyone and it's not something we should cater to.