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re: Unintended consequences of smoking ban in New Orleans
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:08 pm to lsuwontonwrap
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:08 pm to lsuwontonwrap
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I've noticed a few times bartenders leaving the bar to smoke and leaving customers waiting. Annoying.
That's indicative of a much larger problem: shitty employees. I'm willing to bet they weren't great employees before the ban either.
Unless they are taking an allotted smoke break, in which case they would have taken a break pre-ban as well, so nothing has changed except where the break is taken.
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Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:08 pm to PoppaD
Just because the majority supports it doesn't mean it's right.
Do you even tyranny of the majority? That's why we live in a republic.
Do you even tyranny of the majority? That's why we live in a republic.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:09 pm to saderade
Even worse, now husbands everywhere aren't going to have an alibi for why they come home smelling like smoke
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:09 pm to AbitaFan08
Intended consequence of smoking ban in NOLA - not smelling like a bucket full of goat assholes when you get home.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:12 pm to Hammertime
Talked to someone at Bruno's last night about this. They said the same thing, people are either out front or on the back patio late at night and not in the bar. Bruno's is lucky, as they have a back patio, so they really haven't lost any customers yet, but it's really not that hot yet. What happens when it's 85 to 90 at 10pm?
ETA, I don't smoke, never did.
ETA, I don't smoke, never did.
This post was edited on 5/9/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:15 pm to rintintin
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Are you kidding me? They paying taxes for all those services you dimwit. Banning smoking has nothing to do with the state providing a service.
You're 100% right on this one.
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The mental gymnastics some of you will go through to defend infringements on freedom is mind boggling.
There are about a million different laws that, based on this logic, "infringe" on your freedom and have a much larger impact on your day to day life than a smoking ban. But my guess is you aren't feeling nearly as "infringed" upon by those laws.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:15 pm to PoppaD
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You may think it's communist laws, but these laws have swept the country because I believe a majority of people support not having to breathe in something we know causes cancer.
The laws have swept the country because you believe something?
What you really need to start believing is that it's possible to write a cogent sentence.
EDIT: Oh yeah...
cogent - adjective - co·gent \'ko-j?nt\ - very clear and easy for the mind to accept and believe
This post was edited on 5/9/15 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:15 pm to Sheep
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Intended consequence of smoking ban in NOLA - not smelling like a bucket full of goat assholes when you get home.
Yes, taking away the freedoms of private entities is a small price to pay for smelling nice.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:16 pm to rintintin
Anazing people still smoke
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:17 pm to Deactived
That "they pay for" those services is not a good argument. The smoking ban is just a higher cost if you want to put it that way.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:17 pm to Hammertime
I was at Lucy's last Friday night, and while there did seem to be more people outside than usual (even for them - it looked like Bacchus out there), I didn't make the connection. It makes a lot more sense now.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:17 pm to AbitaFan08
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There are about a million different laws that, based on this logic, "infringe" on your freedom and have a much larger impact on your day to day life than a smoking ban. But my guess is you aren't feeling nearly as "infringed" upon by those laws.
Actually I do. I'm a big proponent of individual freedoms. This one just so happens to have been enacted in my city in the last few weeks, which is why it is the topic at hand.
And this actually doesn't at all infringe on me personally, as I don't smoke and never have.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:18 pm to PoppaD
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I believe a majority of people support not having to breathe in something we know causes cancer.
I forgot that people are forced to go to bars.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:19 pm to rintintin
My friend plays bass in New Orleans bars for a living, doesn't smoke, and he thinks this is total bull shite. Pretty much said what hammer time said about snake and jakes being shite out of luck because they don't have a patio.
Is it all the transplants here who got fed up and made this happen? The northeasterners that went to Tulane?
Is it all the transplants here who got fed up and made this happen? The northeasterners that went to Tulane?
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:19 pm to rintintin
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Banning smoking has nothing to do with the state providing a service.
Well if the state is providing a service its not completely private is it? which was the original point.
These are public places privately owned, stop acting like the government kicked the door in at your house and took your smokes, and maybe take a Civics class at Delgado.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:20 pm to baybeefeetz
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The smoking ban is just a higher cost if you want to put it that way.
Uhh, what service does banning smoking provide to a business that can voluntarily ban smoking on its own?
I'll sit patiently and wait.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:20 pm to Lakeboy7
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Love this, private huh? so if they get robbed they don't call the police they handle it privately? if there is a fire they don't call the fire department they handle it privately? And of course they don't need any other city services like water or waste disposal because they do that privately and do they invite the public in or just members of the private organization?
I just saw this. Holy shite
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:21 pm to TheIndulger
I think it's a good sign that the people are becoming less trashy. Smoking is trashy. It is banned. I won't get any more up in arms about this loss of freedom, which it is, than I do about the myriad others. Smoking is a joke and I think I can handle the "slippery slope" that falls from banning it.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:22 pm to noonan
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I forgot that people are forced to go to bars.
I don't even think it's much of a debate, really.. Hardly even worth discussing because the right answer is so obvious. Unfortunately the anti freedom laws are the final say.
Posted on 5/9/15 at 12:22 pm to Lakeboy7
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Well if the state is providing a service its not completely private is it? which was the original point.
These are public places privately owned, stop acting like the government kicked the door in at your house and took your smokes, and maybe take a Civics class at Delgado.
Dude....
I'm on the pro-ban side of this argument as well, but you are making the rest of us look dumber when you speak. Please stop posting.
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