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Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:16 am to BilJ
Lawl at the bit where they seem to lay at the feet of Uber the fact that someone bought a 50,000k+ car that the driver is running into the ground because he can't afford the payments on it.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:16 am to upgrayedd
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Hell, most taxi drivers aren't even employed by the taxi companies. The car is leased to them.
Yes and the jewel/license or whatever it is they have to have in NY and NJ is expensive as frick and many of them sell it off when they retire to fund their retirement. I think they go for easy 6 figures now. They go into it looking at it as an investment though.
A portion of FedEX drivers are contractors and own their own vans. It has been that way for years yet they only make so much per package and are fired for poor ratings so I don't see how the Uber argument is valid.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:19 am to Volvagia
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Lawl at the bit where they seem to lay at the feet of Uber the fact that someone bought a 50,000k+ car that the driver is running into the ground because he can't afford the payments on it.
I honestly hope that person didn't already have access to a vehicle that was 10 years old or less, because that could have been used.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:24 am to c on z
Even if he didn't, a fully loaded Accord is like 20k less.
No, what happened is that he wanted a luxury car, and rationalized the justification in that he can get higher fares with it so it's okay.
Then when the plan falls through, it's Uber's fault and he is putting 80k miles a year on it.
No, what happened is that he wanted a luxury car, and rationalized the justification in that he can get higher fares with it so it's okay.
Then when the plan falls through, it's Uber's fault and he is putting 80k miles a year on it.
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:27 am to Volvagia
Didn't read everything but that guy bought a $50,000+ car on Uber's dime and is now bitching about having to work a lot.
No sympathy, bro.
No sympathy, bro.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:31 am to c on z
That would essentially ruin the whole point of uber
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:46 am to AbuTheMonkey
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Didn't read everything but that guy bought a $50,000+ car on Uber's dime and is now bitching about having to work a lot
but instead of having to work more to account for his stupidity he would just prefer it to become an employee, get benefits, and have Uber maintain his vehicle for him. Yeah no shite you would like that.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:54 am to BilJ
He must have been one of those guys who bought into the idea that you could make a ton of money every year with Uber, when that is hardly the case. It is pointless these days to do this job full time in most cities.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:55 am to c on z
uber only works if they are contractors.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:56 am to stout
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Yes and the jewel/license or whatever it is they have to have in NY and NJ is expensive as frick and many of them sell it off when they retire to fund their retirement. I think they go for easy 6 figures now. They go into it looking at it as an investment though.
Yes, the medallion system is basically like being an indentured servant in the name of "public safety".
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:56 am to c on z
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It's not totally spelled out in this article, but the drivers IMO do have a legit gripe about being classified as independent contractors, because if they were independent contractors, I would imagine that they would be setting their own rates (which they don't), and they would likely not subject themselves to an arbitrary rating system (which they are).
No, those are not solid points at all.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 11:58 am to c on z
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Uber drivers should actually be employees
frick that. An frick the people arguing that.
Uber is great because of the independent contractor relationship.
Go be a cab driver of you want.
I hate people that have such an entitled attitude.
Uber is meant to be a second job and an income supplement. It's a ride sharing program not a career opportunity.
I don't understand how the court system can even get involved
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:01 pm to rintintin
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he day that Uber holds a gun to their drivers head and forces them to work for them is the day that
80% of Uber drivers, myself included, quit.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:04 pm to BilJ
Something tells me c on z is a disgruntled uber driver
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:17 pm to LSUsmartass
Driver yes, disgruntled? Meh. I was simply smart enough to not do this full time and smart enough to not purchase a 2015 vehicle just for this job.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:42 pm to c on z
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It's not totally spelled out in this article, but the drivers IMO do have a legit gripe about being classified as independent contractors, because if they were independent contractors, I would imagine that they would be setting their own rates (which they don't), and they would likely not subject themselves to an arbitrary rating system (which they are).
1. Independent contractors can set their own rates, but they would never get hired. If an independent contractor wants to get hired they take the rate the company gives them or the rate they negotiated with the company.
2. The only legit gripe that have heard of was about the gaps in the insurance coverage, but like any good company would they found an insurance company that will work with them and fixed the issue.
Posted on 9/15/15 at 12:52 pm to WeeWee
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Metromile policies will be available for sale to Uber drivers in California, Illinois and Washington state in February, said Chief Executive Dan Preston.
Has it been offered elsewhere yet?
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:01 pm to c on z
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, I would imagine that they would be setting their own rates (which they don't), and they would likely not subject themselves to an arbitrary rating system (which they are).
The rate is set forth through the agreed upon contract.. They can ask for more and not be hired.. The rating system is not unlike many other rating systems applied to outside contractors. They have a well documented appeal process and use a simple equation to determine your ratings..
The main qualifications of a contractor are easily met on the behavioral and financial side
This post was edited on 9/15/15 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 9/15/15 at 1:05 pm to TROLA
I wouldn't do Uber as a full time job anyway
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